Posts Tagged ‘Faith’

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Joel Osteen Said What?

February 15, 2012

“Faith activates God – Fear activates the Enemy.” ― Joel Osteen

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“Don’t just accept whatever comes your way in life. You were born to win; you were born for greatness; you were created to be a champion in life.” ― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“The secret is to enlarge your vision. Are you satisfied with that little house you’re in? You shouldn’t be. You should want the sort of mansion the Osteens live in (his example). You should expect people to go out of their way to help you—then they will.

You must also “discover the power of your thoughts and words.” If you beat yourself up all the time, if you don’t think yourself worthy of divine abundance, God won’t give it. God helps us, to be sure, but we must help ourselves first. You must “let go of the past.” Rather than being consumed with bitterness, you have to forgive and move on.

Finally, you must “choose to be happy.” You can’t put it off till tomorrow or till that next financial milestone is reached. You should smile a lot, and good things will come your way. You also must work hard, for God won’t bless someone who’s slothful. You have to be a person of excellence. Arrive at work early, leave late, respect your boss, don’t waste time on the job—then you’ll be promoted and then you’ll be happier.” ― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“You may be thinking, ‘this sounds too good to be true, Joel.’ I know it’s true! I saw the power of our thoughts and words turn an impossible situation in my own family into a modern-day medical miracle.” His mother was diagnosed with cancer and given only weeks to live. She overcame the disease by claiming victory over it, firing scripture verses at adversity and thumbing her nose at death. She is still living, decades later.” ― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“Start calling yourself healed, happy, whole, blessed, and prosperous. Stop talking to God about how big
your mountains are, and start talking to your mountains about how big your God is!” ― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“You have to learn to follow your heart. You can’t let other people pressure you into being something that you’re not. If you want God’s favor in your life, you must be the person He made you to be, not the person your boss wants you to be, not even the person your parents or your husband wants you to be. You can’t let outside expectations keep you from following your own heart.” ― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“When you are tempted to get discouraged, remind yourself that according to God’s word, your future is getting brighter; you are on your way to a new level of glory. You may think you’ve got a long way to go, but you need to look back at how far you’ve already come. You may not be everything you want to be but atleast you can thank God that you’re not what you used to be.” ― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“God knows your value; He sees your potential. You may not understand everything you are going through right now. But hold your head up high, knowing that God is in control and he has a great plan and purpose for your life. Your dreams may not have turned out exactly as you’d hoped, but the bible says that God’s ways are better and higher than our ways, even when everybody else rejects you, remember, God stands before you with His arms open wide. He always accepts you. He always confirms your value. God sees your two good moves! You are His prized possession. No matter what you go through in life, no matter how many disappointments you suffer, your value in God’s eyes always remains the same. You will always be the apple of His eye. He will never give up on you, so don’t give up on yourself.” ― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“To live your best life now, you must learn to trust God’s timing, you may not think He’s working, but you can be sure that right now, behind the scenes, God is arranging all the pieces to come together to work out His plan for your life.” ― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“Maybe you’ve invested a lot of time, effort, money, emotion, and energy in a relationship; you did your best to make it work out. But for some reason, things got off course. And now you feel as though you have been robbed. When we focus on or disappointments, we stop God from ringing fresh new blessing into our lives.” ― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“It’s our faith that activates the power of God.” ― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“You can take pride in yourself without comparing yourself to anybody else. If you run your race and be the best that you can be, then you can feel good about yourself.” ― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“God will not pour fresh, creative ideas and blessing into old attitudes.” ― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“Many people are unhappy and are not experiencing life to its fullest because they’ve closed their hearts to compassion, they are motivated by only what they want and what they think they need. They rarely do anything for anybody else unless they have an ulterior goal in mind. They are self-involved and self-centered.” ― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“You may be sitting around waiting for God to change your circumstances. Then you’re going to be happy, then your’re going to have a good attitude, then you’re going to give God praise. But God is waiting on you to get up on the inside. When you do your part, He’ll begin to change things and work supernaturally in your life.” ― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“God is a good God, and He gives good things to his children. No matter who has denigrated you or how much pain you’ve experienced in life, no matter how many setbacks you have suffered, you cannot allow yourself to accept that as the way life is supposed to be. No, God has better things in store for you. You must reprogram your mind with God’s word; change that negative, defeated self-image, and start seeing yourself as winning, coming out on top. Start seeing that marriage as restored. See your business as flourishing. See your children as enjoying the good things of God. You must see it through your eyes of faith, and then it will begin to happen.” ― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“Don’t simply settle for what your parents had. You can go further than that. You can do more, have more, be more.” ― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“You need to follow your own heart in light of God’s word and do what you feel is right and good for you.” ― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“If you’re not seeing God move in your life right now, one of two possibilities must be considered. Either your requests are not God’s best and will probably not be answered the way you’d like or it must not be the right time. If God were to answer that prayer the way you are hoping, it could interfere with his ideal plan for you.” ― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“The marriage partner is not really the problem. No other person can ultimately make you happy. You must learn how to be happy within yourself.” ― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“You need to take pride in what God has given you.” Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“What you keep before your eyes will affect you.” Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“What you receive is directly connected to what you believe.” Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“Hold on to that new, enlarged vision of victory that God has given you. Start expecting things to change in your favor. Dare to boldly declare that you are standing strong against the forces of darkness.” Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential

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“Don’t think small when you pray. God has a way to bring your dreams to pass if you’ll dare to be bold enough to ask.”
― Joel Osteen

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John Lake Said What?

December 1, 2011

“The power of God, the Holy Ghost, is the Spirit of Dominion.  It makes one a god.” – John G. Lake, John G. Lake, His Life, His Sermons, His Boldness of Faith, 1995, pg. 13.

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“I want you to hear what Jesus said about himself.  God was in Christ, wasn’t He?  An incarnation.  God is in you, an incarnation, if you were born again.  You are incarnate…”  – John G. Lake, John G. Lake, His Life, His Sermons, His Boldness of Faith, 1995, pg. 196.

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“For God’s purpose through Jesus Christ is to deify the nature of men and thus forever make them like unto, … Thus he becomes the Son of god, a Savior and redeemer forever…” – John G. Lake, John G. Lake, His Life, His Sermons, His Boldness of Faith, 1995, pg. 304.

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“The thing that was forfeited in the garden was regained. God gave him [Adam] dominion over the works of His hand. God made him His understudy, His king to rule over everything that had life. Man was master, man lived in the realm of god. He lived on terms of equality with God. God was a faith God. All God had to do was to believe that the sun was, and the sun was. All God had to do was to believe that the planets would be, and they were. Man belonged to God’s class of being – a faith man, And he lived in the creative realm of God…” – John G. Lake, Kenneth Copeland Publications, Fort Worth, Texas 1994, pg. 66.

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Kenneth Hagin Said What?

November 6, 2011

“Kenyon’s influence on my ministry has been minute. Only his teachings on the name of Jesus have much to do with my theology. I absolutely deny any metaphysical influences from Kenyon. I teach not Christian Science, but Christian sense.” – Kenneth Hagin. (Quoted by Hank Hanegraaff, Counterfeit Revival, 1997 citing Vinson Synan, “The Faith Of Kenneth Hagin”, Charisma & Christian Faith, 15:11, June,
1990, pg 68.)

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“Why did He need to be begotten or born? Because He became like we were – separated from God. Because He tasted spiritual death for every man. And His spirit and inner men went to hell in my place. Can’t you see that? Physical death wouldn’t remove your sins. He’s tasted death for every man. He’s talking about tasting spiritual death. Jesus is the first person that was ever born again. Why did His spirit need to be born again? Because it was estranged from God.” – Kenneth Hagin, How Jesus obtained His Name, Kenneth Hagin Ministries, Audio Tape #44-H01.

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“You are as much the incarnation of God as Jesus Christ was… the believer is as much an incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth.” – Kenneth Hagin, Word Of Faith, December, 1980, pg 14.

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“Every man who has been born again is an incarnation and Christianity is a miracle. The believer is as much an incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth.” Kenneth Hagin, The Incarnation, The Word of Faith 13, December, 1980.

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“[Man] was created on terms of equality with God, and he could stand in God’s presence without any consciousness of inferiority… God made us as much like Himself as possible… He made us the same class of being that He is Himself… Man lived in the realm of God. He lived on terms equal with God… [The] believer is called Christ… That’s who we are; we’re Christ.” – Kenneth Hagin, Zoe: The God-Kind of Life, 1989. pg 35-36, 41.

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“Man is a spirit who possesses a soul and lives in a body… He is in the same class with God. …We know that God is a Spirit. And yet [He] took upon Himself a man’s body… when God took upon Himself human form, He was no less God than when He didn’t have a body. Man, at physical death, leaves his as he was when he had his body.” – Kenneth Hagin, Man of Three Dimensions, Tulsa: Faith Library, 1973.

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“It seems strange that the Church has majored in “manner of life” or “behavior”, rather than eternal life, which determines in a very large way the manner of life. Receiving eternal life is the most miraculous incident in life. Often we call it conversion or the new birth. Some call it “getting religion,” but that’s not what it is really. It is, in reality, God imparting His very Nature, substance, and being to our human spirits.” – Kenneth Hagin, The God Kind of Life, Tulsa: Faith Library, 1981, pg 1-2, 9.

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“God’s method of physical healing is spiritual. It is not mental as Christian Science, Unity and other metaphysical teachers claim. Neither is it physical as the medical world teaches. When man heals, he must do it either through the mind or through the physical body. When God heals He heals through the human spirit,
Life’s greatest forces are spiritual forces. . . . Love and hate, faith and fear, joy and peace, are all of the spirit.” – Kenneth Hagin, Spirit, Soul, & Body; Part Three: God Heals through the Spirit of Man,” Word of Faith, December, 1977, pg 5.

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“Here is a picture of Christ in awful combat with the hosts of darkness. It gives us a glimpse of the tremendous victory He won before He rose from the dead. The margin of King James reads, “He put off from Himself the
principalities and the powers.” It is quite obvious and evident that whole demon hosts, when they had Jesus within their power intended to swamp Him, to overwhelm Him, and to hold Him in fearful bondage. But the cry came forth from the throne of God that Jesus had met the demands of Justice, that that man’s
redemption was a fact. And when that cry reached the dark regions, Jesus arose and threw back the host of demons and met Satan in awful combat. God has made this investment for He has made this deposit on which the church has a right to draw for. Oh that our eyes would open, that our souls would dare to rise in the
realm of the omnipotent where that name would mean to us all that God the Father intended it to mean! In one sense, this is practically unexplored table land in Christian experience.” – Kenneth Hagin, The Name Of Jesus: The More Excellent Name, The Word of Faith, April, 1976, pg 4-6.

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“What does identification mean? It means our complete union with Him in His Substitutionary Sacrifice. This gives us the key which unlocks the great teachings of identification. Christ became one with us in sin that we might become one with Him in righteousness. He became as we were to the end that we might become as He is now. He died to make us live. He became weak to make us strong. He suffered shame to give us glory. He went to hell to take us to heaven. He was condemned to justify us. He was made sick that healing might be ours.” – Kenneth Hagin, The Resurrection! What it Gives Us…, The Word Of Faith, April, 1977, pg 5.

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“Every man who has been born again is an incarnation and Christianity is a miracle. The believer is as much an incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth.” Kenneth Hagin, The Incarnation, The Word of Faith 13, December, 1980.

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“Of course, Jesus stands in a class by Himself, personally, and as Deity. But when it comes to ministry, Jesus does not stand in a class by Himself…Even though Jesus was the Son of God, and divine blood flowed through His veins, yet He was ministering on earth as a human being—a prophet anointed with the Holy Spirit.” – Kenneth Hagin, Hear and Be Healed. Tulsa; Faith Library Publications, 1987, pg 8.

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“Jesus id not minister with His divine attributes while He was on earth. He ministered as a man anointed by the Holy Spirit. ….The Bible says that Jesus voluntarily laid aside His power and glory as the Son of God (Phil 2:6-8) and ministered as a man filled and anointed with the Holy Spirit—the same way we are to minister.” – Kenneth Hagin, Jr. God’s Irresistible Word, Tulsa; Faith Library Publications, 1989, pg 36.

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“We [the church] are Christ.” – Kenneth Hagin, As Christ is – So Are We, Tulsa: Rhema, Cassette Tape #44H06.

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“Every man who has been “born-again” is an Incarnation, and Christianity is a miracle. The believer is as much an Incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth.”  – Kenneth Hagin, As Christ Is – So Are We, Tulsa: Rhema, Cassette Tape #44H06.

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“The Lord said to me, “If you give a message for an individual, a church, or a pastor, and they don’t accept it, you will not be responsible.  They will be responsible.  There will be ministers who don’t accept it and will fall dead in the pulpit. I say this with reluctance, but this actually happened in one place where I preached.  Two weeks from the day that I closed that meeting, the pastor fell dead in the pulpit… Why?  Because he didn’t accept the message that God gave me to give him from the Holy Spirit.” – Kenneth Hagin, I Believe in Visions, 115.

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“There are two things to notice about the God kind of faith.  First, a man believes with his heart.  Second, he believes with his words.  It isn’t enough just to believe in your heart.  In order to get God to work for you, you must believe with your words also.  Jesus said, “Whosoever shall say … and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith” (Mark 11:23).  This is the unalterable law of faith.” – Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Hagin Faith Lesson No. 21 – The God Kind of Faith, http://hopefaithprayer.com/faith/kenneth-hagin-faith-lesson-no-21-the-god-kind-of-faith/, (Accessed 07/11/11).

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“The God kind of faith is the kind of faith in which a man believes with his heart and says with his mouth that which he believes in his heart, and it comes to pass.

Jesus showed that He had that kind of faith, for He believed that what He said would come to pass.  He said to the tree, “No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever.”

This is the kind of faith that spoke the world into existence… How did He do it?  God believed that what He said would come to pass.  He spoke the word and there was an earth. He spoke into existence the vegetable kingdom.  He spoke into existence the animal kingdom.  He spoke into existence the heavens as well as the earth, the moon, the sun, the stars and the universe.  He said it and it was so.  That is the God kind of faith.  He believed what He said would come to pass and it did.” – Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Hagin Faith Lesson No. 21 – The God Kind of Faith, http://hopefaithprayer.com/faith/kenneth-hagin-faith-lesson-no-21-the-god-kind-of-faith/, (Accessed 07/11/11).

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“A measure of faith is dealt to the sinner through hearing the Word.  Then he uses it to create the reality of salvation in his own life.” – Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Hagin Faith Lesson No. 21 – The God Kind of Faith, http://hopefaithprayer.com/faith/kenneth-hagin-faith-lesson-no-21-the-god-kind-of-faith/, (Accessed 07/11/11).

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“Defeat and failure do not belong to the child of God.  God never made a failure.  God made us new creatures.  We are not born of the will of the flesh or the will of man, but of the will of God.  We are created in Christ Jesus.  Failures are man-made.  They are made by wrong believing and wrong thinking.  I John 4:4 says, “… Greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.”  Learn to trust the Greater One that is in you.  He is mightier than anything in the world.” – Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Hagin Faith Lesson No. 21 – The God Kind of Faith, http://hopefaithprayer.com/faith/kenneth-hagin-faith-lesson-no-21-the-god-kind-of-faith/, (Accessed 07/11/11).

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“God created the universe with words.  Words filled with faith are the most powerful things in all the world.

The key to the God kind of faith is believing with the heart and confessing with the mouth.  Our lips can make us millionaires or keep us paupers.  Our lips can make us victors or keep us captives.  We can fill our words with faith or we can fill our words with doubt.  We can fill our words with love that will melt the coldest heart, or we can fill our words with hate and poison.  We can fill our words with love that will help the discouraged and broken-hearted, with faith that will stir heaven.  We can make our words breathe the very atmosphere of heaven.

Our faith will never rise above the words of our lips.  Jesus told the woman with the issue of blood that her faith had made her whole.  Thoughts may come and they may persist in staying.  But if we refuse to put those thoughts into words, they die unborn.  Cultivate the habit of thinking big things.  Learn to use words that will react upon your own spirit.  Faith’s confessions create realities.  Realization follows the confession.  Confession precedes possession.” – Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Hagin Faith Lesson No. 21 – The God Kind of Faith, http://hopefaithprayer.com/faith/kenneth-hagin-faith-lesson-no-21-the-god-kind-of-faith/, (Accessed 07/11/11).

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Greg French Said What?

July 30, 2011

“Connect Group Notes – 25 July 2011

GOD CAN, IF YOU BELIEVE – Ps Greg French

‘Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may obtain it.’ 1 Cor 9:24 (NKJV)

We lose hope when we lose sight of God’s capacity to breakthrough. To run our race means we need to choose to believe that God can.

– A boy is Healed, Mark 9:14-29
• Jesus says that all things are possible for those who believe, v23
• We need to move into a place of belief that God can v24

So how do we move from unbelief to belief?
– Understand that small things are important

Matt 10:29-30 The details of our life are important to God.

• We need to train ourselves to have faith in small things.
• Speak to molehills first, building your faith for mountains.
• We forget that to believe for the ‘small’ things is preparation for the ‘big’ things.
• We build belief, faith when we start believing with smaller things in life.

– Keep turning up

Acts 3:1 This man was positioned day after day for 38 years. The two men passing were pray-ers, heading to pray. They are walking past hundreds of needy people but they hear the voice of the blind man among others because they hear God’s voice in prayer.

• We too need to understand our voice will be heard if we keep turning up.
• We are strengthened and rebuilt when we continue coming to the House of God.

– Have a heart revelation, embrace unity
Acts 4:32-34 ALL needs met because they were of one heart, one mind.

• We need a revelation of God in our hearts, not just our minds.
• As we stand in unity and agreement with each other, power and grace build.

God says “I am the God who can, if you just believe.”
TALK ABOUT
1. What do you do when you lose faith?
2. How can you re-commit to persevering, continuing to show up to God’s place?
3. Who has God put in your life that you can stand in agreement with or for?” – Greg French, Connect Group Notes 25 July 2011: God Can If You Believe, 25/07/2011. (Accessed 28/07/2011)

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Russel Kelly VS Paul de Jong

May 19, 2011

(Source: http://www.tithingdebate.com/DeJongRebuttal.html)

Paul de Jong is held up as a defender of Christian Tithing doctrine in Australia and New Zealand. But when his confident assertions on the subject were examined by tithing expert Dr. Russell Kelly they failed to stand up Biblically. And confronted with this in-depth review of his teaching Paul de Jong has, so far, not provided a rebuff to any of Dr. Kelly’s points. Read for yourself Dr. Kelly’s point by point analyst of Mr. de Jong’s teaching. Paul de Jong is pastor of Christian Life Centre in Auckland, New Zealand and a board member of Riverview Church in Perth, Australia. Dr. Russell Kelly is a USA based theologian who earned his doctorate with a thesis on tithing, and is author of the book “Should The Church Teach Tithing?”. In our opinion Paul de Jong, unless he can defend his tithing teaching, can no longer be held up as an expert on tithing.

Stay tuned. Paul de Jong has been challenged to provide answers to Dr. Kelly’s rebuttal. If Paul de Jong provides answers then we will publish them.

Rebuttal to Paul de Jong’s Tithing Sermon by Russell Earl Kelly, Ph. D.

www.tithing-russkelly.com   or  russkellyphd@earthlink.net

DEJONG: As I said this morning, what I want to do is to focus in on God’s first placed priority, because when you think priority you’ve got to think of the scriptures we have already looked at.  In Matthew 6:33 it says, “Seek first the Kingdom of God and everything else will happen.” 

KELLY: There is a vast difference in God’s Word and our dictionaries between the word “first” and the word “tenth.”  They are not the same in either usage or else they would be equal. Leviticus 27:32 reads “And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passes under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.”

DEJONG: Malachi chapter 3 beginning at verse 6, very interesting words that God writes. He begins by saying this …

KELLY:  DeJong and almost every tithe-teacher “begins” at Malachi 3:6. On the other hand, God began the specific condemnation in Malachi in 1:6 and 2:1 where he addressed the “priests” with the pronoun “you.” If one follows this pronoun from 1:6 to 3:12 it is evident that it does not change. The priests (not the people) are cursed four times in 1:14 and 2:2.because they had stolen from God in 1:14. God threatened to throw dung into the priests’ faces in 2:3 because they had violated their covenant with Levi in 2:4-10. The priests’ question in 2:17 is answered with a severe chastening in 3:1-5. There is no legitimate textual reason to conclude that 3:6-12 is not a continued rebuke of dishonest and greedy priests. Malachi is speaking to dishonest Old Covenant Israelite priests and is not speaking to the New Covenant church.

DEJONG: Malachi 3:6 “For I am the LORD, I do not change.”

“It is very interesting when there is much debate at times, particularly in Christian circles over the whole subject of tithing and the way that God has laid down as a foundation as a provision for His house.”

KELLY: DeJong very often calls the “church” a “house” in order to compare it to the OT “house of God” in order to collect tithes there.

DEJONG: Malachi 3:6 “For I am the LORD, I do not change.” “….the birthing of the challenge of tithing to God’s people was this statement:

KELLY: “God does not change His promises within a covenant” is the context.  As long as the Old Covenant was in place God kept the covenant terms of both blessings and curses and national Israel had also agreed to those terms. However everything about tithing changed. (1) The Old Covenant ended; (2) national Israel ended; (3) the physical house called the Temple ended; (4) the Levite-support system which received tithes and performed servant duties to the priests changed to unpaid church deacons, choirs, ushers, etc; and (5) the ministry of priests who received a tenth of the tithe from the Levites changed to a clergy patterned after Jewish rabbis.

DEJONG: “Malachi 3:6-7 “… Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob. Yet from the days of your fathers you have gone away from My ordinances and have not kept them. Return urn to Me, and I will return to you.”

KELLY: DeJong does not elaborate on these texts.  Again the pronoun “you” from 1:6 onward is addressed to dishonest priests who are, of course, also “sons of Jacob.” The “ordinances” (also called “statutes”) are the ceremonial worship laws given to the priests under their special “covenant of Levi” in 2:4-10.

DEJONG: Malachi 3:8 “Will a man rob God? Yet you have robbed Me! But you say,

‘In what way have we robbed You?’

KELLY: The question-and-answer format between the priests and God continues. In1:6 God rebukes and the priests reply. In 1:7 God rebukes and the priests ask a question. In 1:7-11 God and the prophet rebuke the priests. In 1:12, 13 the priests rebut God. In 1:14 God curses the priests for stealing. In 2:1-9 God curses and rebukes the priests. In 2:10 the priests ask a question. Next 2:11, 12 are in third person to all Judah. In 2:13 the prophet rebukes the priests, In 2:14-16 the priests ask a question and God rebukes them. In 2:17 the priests ask a question and God answered in 3:1-6. In 3:7 the priests ask another question which is answered in 3:8-10.  That is the context!

DEJONG: Malachi 3:8 … In tithes and offerings. [No elaboration.]

KELLY: Malachi 1:14 reads “But cursed be the deceiver, which has in his flock a male, and vows, and sacrifices unto the LORD a corrupt thing.” According to Numbers 18:30 the Levites gave the very best of the tithe which they had received to the priests.  Yet for their own personal offering in Malachi the priests had kept the best and given God the sick and weak (1:7-14).  In Nehemiah 13:5 the high priest Eliashib had emptied the storehouse which held the tithes. “And he had prepared for him a great chamber, where aforetime they laid the grain offerings, the frankincense, and the vessels, and the tithes of the wheat, the new wine, and the oil, which was commanded to be given to the Levites, and the singers, and the porters; and the offerings of the priests.” Nehemiah realized that the tithes for the ministering Levites had been STOLEN by the priests. “And I perceived that the portions of the Levites had not been given them: for the Levites and the singers, that did the work, were fled every one to his field” (13:10). While this may not be the exact cause of Malachi 3:8-10 it is also likely that it is the exact context. This is biblical proof that the priests had stolen both tithes and offerings from the Temple storehouse in Malachi’s lifetime. DeJong does not discuss either Malachi 1:14 or Nehemiah 13.

DEJONG: Malachi 3:9 “You are cursed with a curse, for you have robbed Me, even this whole nation.”  [This whole nation –of you—that is, of you priests.]

KELLY: The priests had already been cursed four times in Malachi.

Mal. 1:14 But cursed be the deceiver, which has in his flock a male, and vows, and sacrifices unto the LORD a corrupt thing …

Mal 2:1 And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you.

Mal 2:2 If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name, saith the LORD of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to heart.

DEJONG: Malachi 3:10 “Bring all the tithes into the storehouse…”

KELLY: There are many problems with the normal interpretation of this text which are totally ignored by tithe-teachers. From my essay:

(1) The “whole” tithe: In reality, the overwhelming majority of Levitical tithes never went to the Temple. Those who teach otherwise ignore the Levitical cities and the 24 courses of the Levites and priests. According to Numbers 35, Joshua 20, 21 and First Chronicles 6, Levites and priests lived on borrowed land like Jericho and Hebron surrounding the Levitical cities where they farmed and raised (tithed) animals. And it is clear from Numbers 18:20-24, Second Chronicles 31:15-19 and Nehemiah 10:37 that the ordinary people were expected to bring their tithes to the Levitical cities. Why? That is where 98% of the Levites and priests lived with their families most of the time. See also Nehemiah 13:9.

(2) The 24 courses of Levites and priests must also be considered. Beginning with King David and King Solomon, they were divided into 24 families. These divisions were also put into place in Malachi’s time by Ezra and Nehemiah. Since normally only one family served in the Temple for only one week at a time, there was no reason to send ALL of the tithe to the Temple when 98% of those it was designed to feed were still in the Levitical cities (1 Chron. 24-26; 28:13, 21; 2 Chron. 8:14; 23:8; 31:2, 15-19; 35:4, 5, 10; Ezra 6:18; Neh. 11:19, 30; 12:24; 13:9, 10; Luke 1:5).

Therefore, when the context of the Levitical cities, the 24 families of priests, under-age children, wives, Numbers 18:20-28, 2 Chronicles 31:15-19, Nehemiah 10-13, and all of Malachi are all evaluated, only about 2% of the total first tithe was normally required at the Temple in Jerusalem.

DEJONG: Malachi 3:10 “…That there may be food in My house, And try Me now in this,” Says the LORD of hosts, “If I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you such blessing that there will not be room enough to receive it.”

KELLY: DeJong makes the same basic mistake that all tithe-teachers make when he DEFINES “tithe” from secular dictionaries and not from God’s Word.  From my essay:

Use God’s Word to define “tithe.” Do not use a secular dictionary! Open a complete Bible concordance and you will discover that the definition used by tithe-advocates is wrong. In God’s Word “tithe” does not stand alone. Although money existed, the original source of God’s “tithe” was never money. It was the “tithe of food.” This is very important. **True biblical tithes were always only food from the farms and herds of only Israelites who only lived inside God’s Holy Land, the national boundary of Israel.** The increase was gathered from what God increased and not man’s craft or ability.

There are 15 verses from 11 chapters and 8 books from Leviticus 27 to Luke 11 which describe the contents of the tithe. And the contents never (again), never included money, silver, gold or anything other than food from inside Israel! Yet the incorrect definition of “tithe” is the greatest lie being preached about tithing today! (See Lev. 27:30, 32; Numb. 18:27, 28; Deut. 12:17; 14:22, 23; 26 12; 2 Chron. 31:5, 6; Neh. 10:37; 13:5; Mal. 3:10; Matt. 23:23; Luke 11: 42).

DEJONG: Malachi 3:11, 12 “And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes so that he will not destroy the fruit of your ground, nor shall the vine fail to bear fruit for you in the field,” says the LORD of hosts; And all nations will call you blessed, For you will be a delightful land,” says the LORD of hosts.”

KELLY:  This is where the correct definition of “tithe” makes a difference. God did not command tithes from that which man produced, built, sculptured, fashioned or earned through his own wisdom. Money from crafts and trade always existed in the Bible, but it was never included in the basic definition of “tithe of food.” The tithe only came from that which God gave the increase through His own power on His own land of national Israel.  First Corinthians 3:7 “So then neither is he that plants any thing, neither he that waters; but God that gives the increase.”  Notice that God “gives” the increase! This idea is also seen in Deuteronomy 14:22 “You shall truly tithe all the increase of thy seed that the field brings forth year by year.”  See also Lev. 19:25 and Ps. 67:6.

DEJONG: “See, often when we as Christians or particularly as churches begin to talk about money there’s all kind of responses that come back, particularly when it comes around the subject of God’s house. Because if it is true, and again we have taken some time to establish the priority that God has over His house; that His house is like a jewel in His crown, that the house or church of Jesus Christ is something that the Bible says Jesus gave Himself for, then it would be logical to think that the enemy will attack everything that would establish or cause that house to become everything that God wants it to be.”

KELLY:   DeJong prefers the word “house” to “body” or “living organism” when describing the assembly of believers.  Tithes were brought in the OT to the “house” of God, the Temple. In the NT the “house” of God is within every believer. From my essay:

God’s Word never describes New Covenant churches as “tabernacles,” “temples” or “buildings” in which God dwells! God’s church, God’s dwelling place, is within the believers. Believers do not “go to church” — believers “assemble to worship.” Also, since OT priests did not pay tithes, then tithing cannot logically continue. Therefore it is wrong to call a building “God’s storehouse” for tithes. (1 Cor. 3:16, 17; 6:19, 20; Eph. 1:22, 23; 2:21; 4:12-16; Rev. 3:12). For “storehouse” compare 1 Corinthians 16:2 with 2 Corinthians 12:14 and Acts 20:17, 32-35. For several centuries after Calvary Christians did not even have their own buildings (to call storehouses) because Christianity was an outlaw religion.

DEJONG: “… in this church we committed to teach the whole truth and at least every 18 months or 2 years I take some time to again focus in on God’s first place priority of tithing of giving of offerings around the purpose of God, because finance is a tool that can actually release the purpose of God.”

KELLY:  The “whole truth” would include the following:

(1) Tithing was an Old Covenant method of supporting, not the Temple building itself, but the Levites. (2) The Levites who received the tithes were only servants to the priests and were skilled craftsmen responsible for assisting priests, Temple maintenance, Temple security and they also held government positions for the King. (3) The Levites gave one tenth of the tithe they received to the priests. (4) Since they received the tithes neither Levites nor priests could own or inherit land inside Israel. (5) Since they received tithes the head-of-household priest was abolished and an intercessory priesthood was established under the Old Covenant system. (6) According to 2 Corinthians 3:10-18 the Old Covenant had “no glory” unless illuminated by the New Covenant teaching of the Holy Spirit. (7) According to Hebrews 7:12-19 the entire Old Covenant priestly support system of ordinances ended at Calvary and was replaced by better principles of support.

DEJONG: “Do you say Amen to that?  [Talking about money] Don’t go quiet on me this morning.  All right this is good stuff.  Turn to your next-door neighbour and say, “you need to hear this message today.”  

KELLY:  Is this a substitute for expository contextual sermons?

DEJONG: Wrong understanding reaps wrong reward.  Proverbs 13:22 A good man leaves an inheritance to his children’s children… You need to leave an inheritance to your children’s children. 

KELLY:  How do we fit First Timothy 5:8 into a tithing sermon? “But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he has denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.” There are sincere Christians who give everything they have to “anointed preachers” and set aside nothing for their retirement and children. Too often those building bigger “barns” to hold their yachts and airplanes are taking the money from their own flocks per Acts 20:29-35.

DEJONG: Poverty was never God’s plan. That is why we have got to talk about this.  God never intended us to struggle financially and be in poverty all of our lives. There are seasons, yes we go through tough times and there is hard work getting the foundations down. But it is often our wrong thinking, negative attitudes and bad choices or lack of principled living that causes us to continue the battle in financial areas.  

KELLY: Tell this to Jesus. Isaiah prophesied that Jesus would be born poor (Isa. 53:2). He was born in a barn. He lived the life of a poor man. He often uplifted the poor and chastised the rich. Tell this to the rich young ruler whom Jesus commanded to become poor and follow him. Tell this to Paul. As a Jewish rabbi he refused to accept money for preaching God’s Word (1 Cor 9:15-19; Acts 20:29-35). Tell this to Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Cyprian and the persecuted leaders who boasted about their poverty and sought martyrdom. Tell this to almost all great church leaders from the 4th to the 17th centuries who took vows of poverty and chose to live in monasteries. Christianity was nurtured by self-denying missionaries who took vows of poverty. That is not the way they interpreted Jesus’ words about holy separate lifestyles. Many of those who are rich and do not struggle financially become complacent and become their own little gods. Matthew 19:24 “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.” James 5:1 “Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries that are coming upon you!”  Jesus often mentioned the rich in a negative manner and the poor in a praiseworthy manner.

DEJONG: Psalm 112:1 Blessed is the man, who fears the LORD, Who delights greatly in His commandments. 2 His descendants will be mighty on earth; The generation of the upright will be blessed. 3 Wealth and riches will be in his house, And his righteousness endures forever.

KELLY: (1) Does this mean that poor Christians are somehow not spiritual and are guilty of terrible sin? (2) Does this even refer to Christians since “commandments” refers to the entire Mosaic Law and the blessings and curses of Deuteronomy?  (3) Does this mean that our descendants will be mighty because of our spirituality? (4) Most “poor” today in advanced countries still have appliances and luxuries that would make them among the “rich” in biblical times.

DEJONG: There is some dumb teaching going around that if you are really godly, you struggle. You’re in poverty [throughout] your life. Paul says “I know how to abound and abase.” [Phil. 4:12] There are times when we go through tough times, but I am learning to see the splendour and wonder of God flow through me.

KELLY: 1 Tim 6:7-9 “For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.” Phil 4:11 “Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.”

DEJONG: Financial significance. More about our right principles and attitudes than external opportunity. 

KELLY:  Then present the “whole story” of tithing.  Discuss EVERY tithing text and explain how they apply in the New Covenant.

DEJONG: “ …you can be sure I have heard just about every argument under the sun when it comes to the subject of tithing and God’s plan.”

KELLY:  Then why do you ignore most of them?  Your sermons should discuss related explanatory texts like: Gen. 14:21; Lev. 27:33, 34; Numb. 18 all; 35:1-3; Deut.12:6, 7; 14:23, 27-29; Josh. 20, 21; 1 Chron. 23-27; 2 Chron. 31:1-19; Neh. 10-13; Malachi  1:6 to 3:5; Matt. 23:2, 3; Acts 20:29-35; 21:20-25; 2 Cor 3:10-18; Eph. 2:13-17; Col. 2:14;  Heb. 7:12-19; etc. etc. etc.

DEJONG: “Because God has got a plan for His house.  Everything He does – so if God is going to build His house, He’s got a plan.”

KELLY:  The Old Covenant plans have been replaced. God’s plan for the church is called the “New Covenant.” The New Covenant is not the same as the Old Covenant.  It is based on better principles and better promises.

Heb 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant , which was established upon better promises.

Heb 8:13 “In that he says, A new covenant, he has made the first old. Now that which decays and waxes old is ready to vanish away.”

2 Cor 3:10-11 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excels. For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remains is glorious.

Heb 7:18-19 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof. For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by which we draw nigh unto God.

DEJONG: Proverbs 3:9 “Honor the LORD with your possessions, and with the first fruits of all your increase.” The best part the first part, so that your barns will be filled with plenty and your vats full over.  In other words, again it is not just Malachi but in Proverbs it is kind of like the first fruit is God’s, is His.  Not the after thought.  Not the part we do when we can.  It’s the first fruits.  It’s the thing that puts God in that first place.

KELLY:  More later. DeJong is setting the stage to declare that first-fruit and tithes are the same thing.

DEJONG: Genesis 14:17-20.  Again go back to your Bible. The first example of tithing in the Bible we find in Genesis 14:17-20, which is the example of Abraham coming to a point where he recognizes that all that he had and everything that is coming his way was from God. 

KELLY: This is pure conjecture. Abraham probably reached that point either at the end of chapter 12 or the end of chapter 13.  When Abraham sinned God blessed him.  When Abraham earned something he gave it all away.

DEJONG: And so he committed a tithe to God.  There was no law.  There was no example of I have to do this thing. 

KELLY: This is definitely not true!  It shows that DeJong has never made any attempt at serious research on the history of tithing. One would have to ignore historical documents found all over the known world to deny that tithing existed in primitive pagan societies centuries before Genesis 14.

DEJONG: But he says, “No God, you deserve this wonder of receiving the first tenth of my increase.  I give it to you.  And so he gave it to Melchizedek, the high priest of God, the image of God — before the law.  Before there was anything needed there was a willing response.

KELLY: DeJong is placing words into Abraham’s mouth which are not found in Scripture. From my essay:

For the following reasons, Genesis 14:20 cannot be used as an example for Christians to tithe. (1) The Bible does not say that Abraham “freely” gave this tithe. (2) Abraham’s gift was NOT a holy tithe from God’s holy land gathered by God’s holy people under God’s holy Old Covenant. (3) Abraham’s tithe was only from pagan spoils of war common to many nations. (4) In Numbers 31, God only required 1% of spoils of war. (5) Abraham’s tithe to Melchizedek was a one-time recorded event. (6) Abraham’s tithe was not from his own personal property. (7) Abraham kept nothing for himself; he gave everything back. (8) Abraham’s tithe is not quoted anywhere in the Bible to endorse tithing. (9) Genesis 14, verse 21, is the key text. Since most commentaries explain verse 21 as an example of pagan Arab tradition, it is contradictory to explain the 90% of verse 21 as pagan, while insisting that the 10% of verse 20 was God’s will. (10) If Abraham is an example for Christians to give 10% to God, then he should also be an example for Christians to give the other 90% to Satan, or to the king of Sodom! (11) Since neither Abraham nor Jacob had a Levitical priesthood to support, they had no place to bring tithes and probably left food for the poor at their altars.

DEJONG: Genesis 28:20-22. And again, Jacob makes a vow. There is no law. There is no “have to” to God, and I am going to give you a tithe. And there again it wasn’t just 10% of my income. It was the first tenth. It is the very first thing that I do when things come my way. I honor You as God to establish you as greatness over my life. It’s an Old Testament law; it is an Old Testament law that in both Abraham and Jacobs’s life, it was a part of their expression of honor to God for who He is. 

KELLY: (1) The Bible does not state that Abraham and Jacob tithed because it was a law of Yahweh. (2) The “contents” of this tithe does not fit the contents of God’s tithe and would have been rejected under God’s law. (3) The word “first” does not occur in the text, thus DeJong is making the text say what he wants it to say. (4) Jacob’s conversation is not in the text, thus DeJong is again making the text say what he wants it to say. (5) The unquoted text is actually Jacob’s free-will vow and BARGAIN with God which would be totally unacceptable if offered to DeJong by his own church members. (6) As a priest himself Jacob most likely left items at his altars for the poor as his donation for the poor.

DEJONG: And then you go into the law and the law is established in Leviticus 27 and then in Numbers 18, and as we have just read in Malachi chapter 3 where we see the law of God for His people being one of tithing.  And it is interesting because the law often embraced something that was already established. 

KELLY:  DeJong does not ask his congregation to read Leviticus 27:33, 34. These texts point out that every TENTH animal was the tithe and not the first or the best animal!  Verse 34 reminds us that these laws were only for Old Covenant Israelites and not for Gentiles. Numbers 18 is even more important.  It is the exact wording of the “ordinance” of tithing!  (1) It proves that “first-fruit” and “tithes” were not the same thing. (2) It denies land inheritance to Levites and priests who receive tithes. (3) It gives the whole tithe to the Levite servants to the priests. (4) It only gives one tenth of the whole tithe to the priests. (5) It destroys any possibility of the priesthood of believers.

DEJONG: The law now demanded tithing and offerings. And that happened before the law. It wasn’t like it began as an Old Testament law; it was something that was embraced by the Old Testament so that it would be tracks to run on to see the will of God established. Very important. 

KELLY: DeJong admits too much here unless he is thinking that the beginning of tithing was Abraham and Jacob. Check out a few commentaries on Genesis 14:21 (not 14:20) and you will discover that pagan tradition controlled what happened to the 90%. In 14:21. Therefore it probably also controlled the 10% of 14:20.

DEJONG: Matthew 23:23. Let’s go there and enter the New Testament.  Matthew 23, and I trust you have got your Bible because we have got to come back to a basis of biblical understanding to literally embrace and understand and know where we need to go as we lay this platform. 

KELLY: DeJong is subtle, but wrong. Although Matthew 23 is in what man calls the New Testament, it is NOT in what God calls the New Covenant. It is before Calvary, before Pentecost. It is in the context of the Mosaic Law (Gal. 4:4).

DEJONG: Of course in Matthew 23, Jesus has a problem with the religious leaders of the day, the scribes and Pharisees. This was the problem. Those that were leading the church, those that were seen as the ones closest to God were so committed to the external form of doing what was right that they had no internal heart. And Jesus was bringing to pass and putting in the concrete of the fact of a new order.

KELLY: First, the Scribes and Pharisees were NOT “those that were leading the church.” According to Matthew 23:1-3 (which DeJong does not quote) they were the authorities whom the people recognized as interpreters of the Mosaic Law. Matthew 23 is a series of seven woes against their hypocrisy concerning the Law. The problem was that they had greatly exaggerated what God had originally defined as tithing and had added the smallest of kitchen spices to tithing –thus making it a burden.

DEJONG: The fact is that this new dispensation of time, this new covenant, was a covenant of grace. It was a covenant of relationship with God because Jesus was making the way. 

KELLY: From my essay, these are the principles of grace-giving in the church. Why doesn’t he preach these principles to his congregation?

Free-will giving existed before tithing. The following New Covenant free-will principles are found in Second Corinthians, chapters 8 and 9: (1) Giving is a “grace.” These chapters use the word, “grace,” eight times in reference to helping poor saints. (2) Give yourself to God first (8:5). (3) Give yourself to knowing God’s will (8:5). (4) Give in response to Christ’s gift (8:9; 9:15). (5) Give out of a sincere desire (8:8, 10, 12; 9:7). (6) Do not give because of any commandment (8:8, 10; 9:7). (7) Give beyond your ability (8:3, 11, 12). (8) Give to produce equality. This means that those who have more should give more in order to make up for the inability of those who cannot afford to give as much (8:12-14). (9) Give joyfully (8:2). (10) Give because you are growing spiritually (8:3, 4, 7). (11) Give because you want to continue growing spiritually (9:8, 10, 11). (12) Give because you are hearing the gospel preached (9:13).

DEJONG: And basically if you read the context, which I don’t have time to read, Jesus says it is not about the outer thing, it is about the heart and the outer thing.  It’s the inner and the outer.  That’s the establishment of the new covenant.  Then we’ve got to verse 23:

KELLY:  Over and over DeJong skips over context because he doesn’t “have time” but he finds plenty of time to repeat his points and tell long stories. He found time to read verses 16 and 22 but not verses 2 and 3 which give the context.

DEJONG: Matthew 23:23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.” And so He says you ought to have tithed but you should never leave truth and mercy and the things of the heart.  This is further developed in 2 Corinthians 9.  You should give as your heart is free to give.  In other words, it is a heart issue. 

KELLY: Jesus was merely reminding his disciples that true obedience to the Mosaic Law included both outward tithing and inward justice, mercy and faith. The Jewish Christians in Jerusalem later refused to place Gentiles believers under any portion of the Mosaic Law in Acts 15 and Acts 21.

DEJONG: When Jesus said, hey Scribes and Pharisees you must tithe. But don’t loose or don’t let go of the heart response, as a part of the tithe.

KELLY:  Yes, they ought to tithe –because they were still living under the jurisdiction of the Old Covenant Mosaic Law. That is what “weightier matters of the law” refers to in Matthew 23:23. Gal. 4:4 “But when the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law.”

DEJONG: In fact when you go to Deuteronomy 26: 9-12 you’ll find that tithe is rendered first fruits. So actually they used the same picture and context of tithe and first fruit.  So all of the Scriptures regarding first fruit must marinate and cross over with the concept of tithing. 

KELLY: This is a severe distortion of God’s Word in several different ways. Deuteronomy 26:9-12 is a summary of three different offerings! Notice that DeJong does not read the texts! (1) The “first-fruits,” like the wave-sheaf, were very small tokens of the eventual full harvest which were taken directly to the priests who were ministering their one-week rotation at the Temple in Jerusalem. This first-fruit is described in Deuteronomy 26:10. The NIV calls it a “basket” and the TLB calls it a “sample.” It was a small token. Compare Lev. 23:16-20; Numb. 18:12, 13; Neh. 10:35-37. (2) While the tithe was taken directly to the Levites in the Levitical cities, none of the first-fruits went to the Levites. See Numbers 18:20-24; Neh. 10:35-37. (3) A second yearly tithe was brought to Jerusalem for the three festivals and was eaten then by the Levites, the priests, the strangers (three categories of the poor) and those who brought it. This is the context of Deuteronomy 26:9-11 which DeJong does not read. See also Deut. 12:6, 7 and 14:23. (4) Deuteronomy 26:12, 13 (which DeJong does not quote) describe the “third-year tithe” for the poor which is kept in the homes of the worshipers solely for the poor (Levites, priests, fatherless, widows, strangers). Of course, there is no way for DeJong to work the context of these texts into his explanation of tithing. They also prove that tithe-recipients were normally among the poor of the land.

DEJONG: God knows that when we get it right – again, honor the Lord with your first fruits, with the choice part the best of all of your increase and your life will be filled with blessing.  … the first tenth I would bring into the storehouse.  … And it is foolish to think any other way. And it is Scriptural.  Can I read it [Malachi 3:6-11 again, hey…”

KELLY: Speaking of “getting it right,” once again, according to Leviticus 27:32, 33, Numbers 18:20-24 and Nehemiah 10:35-37 the tithe for the support of the Levites was NOT the “first” – it was the “tenth.” It was not even the “best” –it was the “tenth” regardless of quality!  According to Numbers 18:26-28 and Nehemiah 10:37, 38 the “best” which eventually should go to the Temple to feed the priests was only 1/10th of the whole tithe, or 1%.

DEJONG: But I would also say we are far from a people committed to tithing and giving of offerings. I mean we are not even talking about offerings, you know.  

KELLY: DeJong teaches that 10% of one’s income is the absolute minimum beginning standard for giving. Not until that ten per cent is given can one decide to give freewill offerings above the ten per cent level.  That is his next sermon. The fatal flaw in this logic is that only OT Israelite farmers and herdsmen were expected to tithe and the Jewish Encyclopedia says that even that was voluntary. In other words, it never was a minimum standard for everybody, so how can it be one for Christians who never were under the Mosaic Law of tithing at all?

DEJONG:  … just to keep our doors open, this is not to do with capital repayments on the building or anything like that, we need $54,000 a week.  Just to run the programs we run.

KELLY: How is this $54,000 a week spent? Only incomes for preachers? That is wrong! Church property? That is wrong! Christian equivalent of the Levites? Yes. That would require that we pay the deacons (servants to the priests), ushers (door porters), bankers (treasurers), choir leader and members (singers), bakers for church functions, maintenance men (carpenters, roofers, electricians) and we should also include the politicians and judges which were Levites under David and Solomon. See Numbers 3, 1 Chronicles 23-27 plus many other supporting texts in my essay and book.

DEJONG: The first tenth is God’s tithe. And I have got to be careful how I say this, but I mean it with all my heart, that tithe does not go to para-church organizations or great Christian endeavors.  It belongs in the storehouse. 

KELLY:  The New Covenant assembly of believers, the body of Christ, is never called a “storehouse.” Their assembly was an illegal religion for almost 300 years and they met in secret wherever they could hide without a building!  Once again DeJong is trying to equate “church” with a physical “building” which is not scriptural.

Jesus told both the rich young ruler and Zaccheus to give their wealth, not to the establishment, but to the poor. What kind of example was that?  What gives DeJong the authority to demand that his assembly should only give their money to him? There is no monopoly of hierarchy in our age.

WEEK TWO: 

DEJONG:  The fourth reason, just moving quickly, why I tithe. “Because it is holy unto God” Leviticus 27:30. God says,  … all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD’s. It is holy to the LORD. But in Leviticus 27:30 it says that the tithe is holy. It is literally of God. It is not something that is external to God. The question being, does holy ever change

KELLY: Ask a church member to bring a lamb to church, place it on the altar, kill it there and say to DeJong, “Here is my offering today.” When DeJong objects, ask him, “Does holy ever change?” I commented earlier about this in the discussion of Malachi 3:6. From my essay about Leviticus 27:

The phrases “it is HOLY unto the LORD” and “it is MOST HOLY unto the LORD” are very common in Leviticus. Almost every other use of these same two phrases in Leviticus has long ago been discarded by Christians. These phrases are used to describe all of the festivals, the sacrificial offerings, the clean food, the old covenant priests and the old covenant sanctuary. Especially read verses 28 and 29 in the same chapter.

DEJONG: Should I tithe on the gross or the net?  So the question of the gross and the net is: “Are we just doing what we have to do, or is it a position of a beginning point?” …

And again I don’t want to lay any guilt trips on anyone, but I want to challenge you to think about if the challenge in the Old Testament was not just tithing but the giving of offerings; you go into 2 Corinthians 9, basically it challenges everything we have. 

KELLY:  For “guilt trip” see the next question and answer.

DEJONG: What if I have a major personal need that needs to be met?  Should I tithe at a time of incredible challenge?  Again I think I have answered it in point that we’ve got to watch that we don’t lower ourselves to natural wisdom.  If we want God’s help with previous debt then release Him through today’s increase. And I know I am covering a lot of ground.  If you find yourself under debt of your past, don’t allow your past to rob God’s blessing on your increase today. 

KELLY:  Incredible! Your husband has had a car accident and is out or work with medical bills or is dead. The bills are due and the utilities are going to be cut off. The last pay check comes and what do you do?  DeJong says that you pay your tithe! 1 Tim 5:8 “But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he has denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.”

This is the kind of tithing abuse that arouses thousands like myself. THE POOR AND NEEDY WERE NEVER REQUIRED TO TITHE!!! Much of the second tithe and all of the third year tithe was given to the poor. And, although I cannot prove it from scripture, something teaches me that much of the first Levitical tithe also ended up feeding the poor and caring for the needy in Israel. Surely the Levites and priests would have shared their tithes with the poor.

God judged greedy dishonest tithe-recipients in the Old Covenant and he will judge dishonest ministers today also. Malachi 3:5 (in the context of tithing) “And I will come near to you [priests/ministers] to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.” Malachi 2:1 “And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you” –the context of Malachi 3:8-10.

DEJONG: Honor Him with what is coming your way today, and God will take care of not only your future, but help walk with you through what is around you.  If you are a farmer, you’ve got a last bag of seed.  Your family is hungry. You’ve got a big decision to make.  Do you eat the seed, grind it into the wheat, or do you sow the seed?  If that was what you were at the end of, what would you do?  Many of us would eat the seed and say let’s die. Those that are wise will live according to Bible principles will say; no you sow the seed unto harvest. And even though you may take a lean year or two, you release the principle of seedtime and harvest. 

KELLY:  What a stupid illustration!  According to the illustration a person would be DEAD before the harvest was made!  Of course you would eat the seed. The next crop would still come in because of fallen seed just as it did every seventh year and every fiftieth year. The pitiful thing is that DeJong is speaking to the destitute church members from the previous question who have absolutely nothing but their last paycheck. The poor in the OT went to the Levites and priests and their neighbors for assistance.

Since you would accept their last dime, do you let the poor in your community glean from your abundance, swim in your pool, ride on your yacht, fly in your plane, eat at your table? Are you satisfied with their smaller offerings (Lev. 14:21; 27:8)? See Deut. 10:19; 15:7, 8, 11; 24:19-21.

DEJONG: 2 Kings chapter 4, the widow had a little jar of oil.  She says Elisha what shall I do?  He says you’ve got to take the little, and sow the little. 1 Kings 17, the Tishbite widow. Elijah comes and says; I want you to bake me a cake. She says; all I have is one little meal of flour and a little bit of oil. We’re going to make a cake and my son and I are going to eat and we are going to die. He says no you make me one.  How brash is that?  Come on, this is over the question, what if I have a personal major need? You make me the man of God a meal. So she made the man of God a meal and a miracle happened.  

KELLY: If the widows of 1 Kings 17 and 2 Kings 4 brought their very last bit of food to DeJong, from what he just said, he would accept it from them. But would he then immediately work a miracle and immediately return to them many fold? Perhaps the purpose of the stories was to demonstrate the power of God’s true prophet rather than the generosity of the giver. Regardless, DeJong is not in the position of a poor hungry prophet and he should not be accepting the last food from starving widows.

DEJONG: What is my increase? Increase literally is any source that you increase from.

KELLY:  That is not the definition given by God. “Increase” is what God personally provided through either abundant harvest of large herds. Man had nothing to do with producing the increase from neither source. This was previously discussed.

DEJONG: Can I use my tithe to help mission work? Well, I don’t believe you can. 

No the tithe belongs to the storehouse. They are not the storehouse. They are not the place of God’s appointed expression of His bride, but they are important. That is where our offering should be considered to be sought.  … the tithe belongs to the local church. 

KELLY:  Personal opinion.

DEJONG: Does it really mean my first tenth?  Yes, it does mean the first tenth.  The tithe is the first tenth. It is not just 10%. It’s the first tenth. 

KELLY: If you repeat a lie 50, 000 times it is still a lie. Lev 27:32-33 And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passes under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.  He shall not search whether it is good or bad …

DEJONG: Can I have a say in what happens to my tithe? I have to respect and understand God’s ability to guide the leadership. 

KELLY: The assembled body of believers should be consulted to make or confirm all major church decisions. Although a large church should have many elders and many deacons, Christ is still the head of the church.

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Phil Pringle Said What? (IV)

November 24, 2010

Note: All quotes are from Phil Pringle’s book, ‘Faith’ (2001). This book is still promoted by him and are promoted in his colleges. His college library has shelves dedicated to his material. He still promotes ALL his books to this day. Some quotes will seem out of place or uninteresting. I’d encourage you to compare them to his other quotes. These quotes are for the purpose of critique and review.

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“All these books, did something for my spiritual life. However, one day I came across a book to end all books. There are books that God himself places in or hands and they are able to impart the life they speak of. They impart the gift of the writer. The book was called “Ever Increasing Faith” – the biography of Smith Wigglesworh. He was an English plumber who excercised an extraordinary amount of faith and dedication to God. I read only the first page and was so set on fire that I put it down, went to the centre of town and witnessed on the streets for the rest of the evening. When I managed to pick it up again I completed reading it. As I read I discovered that he never read any other book than the Bible. That cured me of reading any other books! For about eighteen months that is. As I read, IT FELT AS THOUGH THE MAN WAS LAYING HIS HANDS ON ME.

Faith was pouring into my spirit from every page.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 8.

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“… Faith is to be covering every area of our lives for successful combat against Satan.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 9.

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“Hebrews Chapter 11 tells us that the secret to the accomplish-ments of all the ancient heroes of scripture is attributable to one quality at work in their lives – FAITH.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 11.

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“Faith is what God responds to. Without faith nothing happens except worry, fear and doubt.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 12.

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“Not only does the absence of faith displease God but He is unable to do the things he wishes when faith is not being exercised.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 12.

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“Faith moves God to action” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 12.

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“Faith is a spirit. It is an attitude. It is confidence in the heart.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 12.

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“Faith is knowing something that no-one else does.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 12.

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“We live in a world full of doubt. It is a Thomas generation. Man has placed his trust in the wisdom of man instead of in the Word of God. This has left him weak, worried, spiritually impoverished and far from God, without any hope in a problem-sick world.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 13.

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“There is no doubt that it is the men and women of faith who have changed the world. You are to be one of this uncommon breed of people who transform this world. Those who “conquered kingdoms”, by faith. – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 13.

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“Faith is the collateral of heaven. It is what you use to trade with in heaven.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 13.

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“The source of faith is the Word of God.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 14.

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“It was also true that Job was the wealthiest man in the East. There is a direct correlation between the measure of God’s Word in our lives and the measure of prosperity we enjoy.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 14.

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“When we have no room for the Word of God in our lives we have no room for success.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 14.

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“There is a marked difference between truth and the facts. People are very quick to let us know what the facts are. However, our faith, focus and fight are based on the truth, not the facts.” – Phil Pringle Faith, 2001, pg 14.

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“God’s Word stands high in opposition to many of the situations we face. We are to make the choice. We believe God’s Word, or we believe the “facts”. If we are to enjoy the great blessing of God, we need to choose the truth every time. Truth versus facts.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 14-15.

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“Truth versus facts. Joshua was told that when he meditated in the Word of God (Joshua 1:8) he would also have success. This is something we must have. For God and for ourselves. The alternative is horrifying.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 15.

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“Faith is the collateral of heaven. It is what you use to trade with in heaven.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 13.

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“The bible opens heaven’s gates and discloses the gates of hell. It rewards all who heed it and condemns outright those who spurn it. It will be opened at judgment to condemn sin and exalt righteousness. It is indestructable. Countless attempts have been made to destroy it. Jesus Himself said it will never pass away. The Bible fits the soul of man like a key to a lock. Thousands of miracles happen all around the world every day to people who claim Bible promises for themselves. It is always up to date on any subject.” – Phil Pringle Faith, 2001, pg 16.

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Faith is an attitude you have within you. – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 22.

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“[Continued] I have come across enough believers who desperately attempt to confess, see, pray, act and receive. All are legitimate elements of faith. Yet many remain depressed, disappointed and void of the victory they so ardently seek. Each problem that they attempt to overcome results in their being overcome, leaving them defeated and often confused. They are neither confident nor assured of anything, but just “hoping” that going through the motions do the trick. But it won’t, because hope is not faith. Let me say it again – Hope is not faith. Joy is the fruit of faith every time.– Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 22.

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” [Continued] You cannot have faith and self pity in the same body.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 22.

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In the new Testament, Paul’s lifestyle left people on the sideline everywhere. It seems that the man had boundless energy, undeterred purpose and an attitude of pure drive that would send today’s most ardent PMA (positive mental attitude) experts to distraction! He perpetually believed that everything would work together for good. Some of the most outrageous things that could possible [sic] happen to an individual happened to Paul. He saw every circumstance through the attitude of faith. He had a feeling within him. He felt that he could not be conquered. He knew His God to be the truth. He made sure that his emotions and mentallity agreed with God’s Word. He would bring his attitudes and emotions into a reflection of what God was saying, no matter what the circumstance.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 23.

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“I’m not talking here about some aneamic substitute for faith called ‘positive thinking’. That may be one of the fruits of faith, but understand clearly that it is not faith itself. Faith begins with an attitude, a spirit within us, a feeling of incredible confidence. A feeling of undefeatable victory over all the circumstances. This feeling makes impossible mountains appear like miniature hills. It makes you feel on top and not underneath.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 25-26.

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“… Faith is shown to be essential in the foundation of a successful Christian Life.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 27.

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“One of the signs of an anointed, Jesus ordained minister is that his fruit remains.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 28.

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“The victory that overcomes the world IS our faith.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg30.

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“There’s little point in blaming God for not doing things if we ignore His laws.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 35.

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“Jesus lived a perfect life. His whole life was perfect. His emotional life – perfect. Speech life – perfect. Relationship life – perfect. Conduct – perfect. Morals – perfect. Obedience – perfect. Nothing was lacking. His entire life, physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, was “without spot or blemish”. The only perfect man ever to live on planet Earth. He went before God in heaven and presented His life before the judgment seat of Heaven. God inspected and signed it off as being perfect. It was a life lived at the highest level. God had lived the perfect life as man on earth. This life could live with God. This life could enter heaven. This life could be admitted to the throne room of God, the loftiest position in all of heaven. This was the very life of God.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 29-30.

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“Remember, it was people of faith throughout all Scripture who achieved the great exploits of God. The list in Hebrews spells it out with absolute clarity. It was not joy, it was not love, it was not brokenness, it was not fasting. It was faith!” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 30.

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“It [faith] is the essential ingredient in the victorious Christian’s life. The victory that overcomes the world IS our faith.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 30.

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“We become joint-inheritors with Christ of all, that’s right – all things. What did he inherit? ALL THINGS! (Hebrews 1:2) After thorough investigation into the word all in the Greek, Hebrew and concordances of all kinds, it is apparent that the word “all” actually means “all”. This truth must sink deeply into our spirit and into the highest revelation in our mind. This is salvation. Faith in this truth sets a man and a woman free.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 33.

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“The plain fact is that our foundation for the great Christian life that God is offering us must be firmly intact. The foundation is faith. Faith based upon the facts in God’s Word. This is the rock that the Church is built on. This is the rock that can’t be moved.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 33.

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“If prayer is not being answered something is wrong. Prayer exists to be answered.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 36.

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“God doesn’t respond to need. He responds to the person who is observing His laws. We are to learn the ways of God. He walks with us as we walk in His ways. As we look at the secrets to answered prayer, we will discover they ways of God.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 36.

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“NEED and DESIRE are the motivation for praying. Both of these are genuine motivations for seeking God.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 36.

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“The basis for faith in prayer is – God loves me – God is a good God, and it is God’s will to answer my prayer. These points are so important I would encourage you to stand up right now, walk around the room and repeat them aloud. God loves me. God is a good God. It is God’s will to answer my prayer.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 36.

“There are seven clear steps to answered prayer.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 36.

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“… Throughout the Bible we see God responding to faith rather than need.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 37.

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“I earnestly believe in a close, deep, personal relationship with the Lord. However this does not guarantee answers to prayer. Faith does! Faith is the master key that unlocks all of heaven’s doors. It’s the collateral of God. It’s the currency of heaven. Without it, we are unable to purchase anything from God. He issues the invitation, “Come, buy wine and milk, without price, without money.” How do we buy without money? With faith, that’s how.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 53.

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“Faith persists. Faith is persistent and does not faint. It makes decisions. It is determined to obtain the promise of God.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 53.

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“The main point here is that we are to desire something before faith can come into play. Our desires are of value to God. It’s His well to fulfill our dreams. When we are delighting in the Lord, our dreams and desires are formed in His Spirit, timing and purpose.” – Phil Pringle Faith, 2001, pg 39.

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“If a man knows what he wants, then he is in a position to decide that he will get it. This is faith. The determined decision of a man with desire.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 43.

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“Prayer is the most powerful ability the believer has access to.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 46.

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“Here we are talking about the prayer of faith. This is when we know what we want, have decided that we are going to have it, then asking God for it. We ask Him to enable us in obtaining it.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 46.

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“I earnestly believe in a close, deep, personal relationship with the Lord. However this does not guarantee answers to prayer. Faith does! Faith is the master key that unlocks all of heavens doors. It’s the collateral of God. It’s the currency of heaven. Without it, we are unable to purchase anything from God. He issues the invitation, “Come, buy wine and milk, without price, without money.” How do we buy without money? With faith, that’s how.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 53.

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“Faith persists. Faith is persistent and does not faint. It makes decisions. It is determined to obtain the promises of God.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 53.

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“Faith is a time rebel. It travels through time into the future, it feels the experience of a yet future event. But it feels that event in the “now”. Faith is not pretending that it’s there. It is not hoping that it’s there. It is not imagining that it’s there.

Faith knows it’s there because it has the substance of the experience, or the thing, in itself. Faith is a substance of a “thing” it feels the “thing” existing within the heart right now. Because it exists inside me I know that it exists. Somehow my faith has rebelled against normal time restrictions, travelled out into the future, plugged into this thing and translated the substance of it back to me here in the now.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 55.

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“Faith locates us with God in the timeless world of eternity. It’s a time rebel.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 55.

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“Faith deals with primarily with two arenas. The future and the invisible. Obviously both are invisible but one deals with the unseen reality of the present while the other deals with the unseen reality of the future. When we pray and the substance of an unseen reality enters our spirit (our “knower”) it has a two way effect. Firstly, the reality that our faith has put us into contact with, feeds into our spirit an assurance of that “reality”. Secondly, it’s as though an umbilical cord is connected from our spirit to that prayer request and we feel the answer to our prayer as we continue to pray over the request. This faith contacts us with our future, with our destiny. If we let go of our faith we lose direction. We “make shipwrecks” of our lives, Paul says to his young disciple in 1 Timothy 1:19.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 56.

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“We believe that we have the answer to our prayer before our five senses tell us so. The Amplified Bible interprets Hebrews 11:1 as “Faith perceives as a reality what is not revealed to the five senses.”

Faith is like an additional sense. A spiritual sense… Thus we walk by faith, that is, an inner substance, an inner reality that cannot be seen by anyone else. The conclusion is that we don’t wait until we receive a thing before we believe that we have it. We get it before we get it.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 56.

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“Abraham believed God and it was reckoned to him for righteousness (Romans 4:3). He grew strong in faith by giving glory to God. What was he giving glory to God for? He believed that God’s word had already made him a father… In all that time there was no change in the circumstances that he was facing. But all the time Abraham continued to locate himself with God and give glory to God for something that had already happened.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 57.

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“… If we believe that the moment we pray God has said “yes”, and answered our prayer, we will give Him thanks. This is one of the highest expressions of faith. Worshipping God for what is about to happen.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 57.

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“When this principle first began operating in my life I had never heard anyone so much mention the idea of receiving a thing before receiving it. If they had, I may have written them off as having had too much pizza the night before! It sounds strange to the natural man. But that’s always the way with the laws of God. They are indecipherable to the natural man. In Isaiah 55 God declares His “ways are not our ways”. He says that His ways are “higher” than our ways. Like the difference between heaven and earth, flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s Kingdom. It’s a spiritual Kingdom. It runs on spiritual principles. We must understand these principles and operate within them if we are ever to do anything of eternal value for God. Trying to build a spiritual Kingdom by means of the flesh is a sure recipe for burn-out and failure.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 58.

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“In Matthew 16:19, Jesus said that He would give us the keys to the Kingdom. Faith is the major key that opens every door in the Kingdom. It is a master key. Therefore it is imperative that we understand the ways of faith. Because these keys are the ways of God the natural man cannot receive them. They are spiritually understood. They are foolishness to the natural man. When a gift of the Spirit operates. Then we are able to impart that gift to others and teach them how to function in it also.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 58.

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“Faith is a creative force. When we operate by faith, we employ the creative power of God.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 66.

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“Faith deals primarily with two arenas. The future and the invisible. Obviously both are invisible but one deals with the unseen reality of the present while the other deals with the unseen reality of the future. When we pray and the substance of an unseen reality enters our spirit (our “knower”) it has a two way effect. Firstly, the reality that our faith has put us into contact with, feeds into our spirit an assurance of that “reality”. Secondly, it’s as though an umbilical cord is connected from our spirit to that prayer request and we feel the answer to our prayer as we continue to pray over the request. This faith contacts us with our future, with our destiny. If we let go of our faith we lose direction. We “make shipwrecks” of our lives, Paul says to his young disciple in 1 Timothy 1:19.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 56.

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“We believe that we have the answer to our prayer before our five senses tell us so. The Amplified Bible interprets Hebrews 11:1 as “Faith perceives as a reality what is not revealed to the five senses.”

Faith is like an additional sense. A spiritual sense… Thus we walk by faith, that is, an inner substance, an inner reality that cannot be seen by anyone else. The conclusion is that we don’t wait until we receive a thing before we believe that we have it. We get it before we get it.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 56.

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“Abraham believed God and it was reckoned to him for righteousness (Romans 4:3). He grew strong in faith by giving glory to God. What was he giving glory to God for? He believed that God’s word had already made him a father… In all that time there was no change in the circumstances that he was facing. But all the time Abraham continued to locate himself with God and give glory to God for something that had already happened.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 57.

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“… If we believe that the moment we pray God has said “yes”, and answered our prayer, we will give Him thanks. This is one of the highest expressions of faith. Worshipping God for what is about to happen.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 57.

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“When this principle first began operating in my life I had never heard anyone so much mention the idea of receiving a thing before receiving it. If they had, I may have written them off as having had too much pizza the night before! It sounds strange to the natural man. But that’s always the way with the laws of God. They are indecipherable to the natural man. In Isaiah 55 God declares His “ways are not our ways”. He says that His ways are “higher” than our ways. Like the difference between heaven and earth, flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s Kingdom. It’s a spiritual Kingdom. It runs on spiritual principles. We must understand these principles and operate within them if we are ever to do anything of eternal value for God. Trying to build a spiritual Kingdom by means of the flesh is a sure recipe for burn-out and failure.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 58.

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“In Matthew 16:19, Jesus said that He would give us the keys to the Kingdom. Faith is the major key that opens every door in the Kingdom. It is a master key. Therefore it is imperative that we understand the ways of faith. Because these keys are the ways of God the natural man cannot receive them. They are spiritually understood. They are foolishness to the natural man. When a gift of the Spirit operates. Then we are able to impart that gift to others and teach them how to function in it also.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 58.

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“Faith is a creative force. When we operate by faith., we employ the creative power of God. Every time I talked to my lawyer I would chuckle inside knowing that I already had what he was telling me I would never get. If I ever had doubts coming at me, I would speak the promises of God. Mark 11:22-24 became a permanent thought pattern in my mind and mouth. I would speak those scriptures so many times every day I felt as though they were shredded by the end of the day. Every time I spoke the Word, my faith would build and doubts would be defeated. The Word is the sword of the Spirit. It is double-edged. One edge builds your faith, while the other defeats the devil.

When Christ fought the devil in the wilderness, He used scripture. No His own words, but the words of Old Testament writings. “It is written,” He said time and time again. The power of the Word of God is enough to create worlds and defeat devils. It is also powerful enough to bring reality to your dreams. Whenever I speak out the promises of God in my mind I connect them with the particular project I’m currently involved with. It injects faith and reinforces the faith inside me that what I’m praying for will come to pass.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 66-67.

“Remember you don’t need faith, for what you can see. You need it for what you can’t see.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 68.

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“When we receive a thing today in our faith that we are yet to receive physically, this connects us with our future. It’s like a long cord tied to your spirit and the yet future event. Holding faith is holding that cord and drawing your self into your destiny in God. All that needs to happen then is that we pass through time realising that we are (Hebrews 10:23) to

“hold fast to our faith without wavering, for He is faithful that promised.”

If we let go of our faith, we lose the connection with our future and begin to drift. Faith is the one thing that will keep you in God. It will keep your heart tight and your mind clear. It’s not always easy to be a faith person facing the impossible. But “hold fast.”

He is faithful that promised! – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 68-69.

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STEP FIVE – SPEAK IT

“Confession needs to be a faith to the heart…”

Mark 11:23 says

Whosoever shall say to this mountain, be thou removed and cast into the sea, and shall not doubt in his heart but shall believe that those things which he says shall come to pass, he shall have whatever he says.

Kenneth Hagin rightly points out that the word “say” occurs three times here, whereas the word “pray” occurs only twice in the following verse in regard to gaining answers to prayer. We can enable the answers to our prayers or disable them, by the words of our mouth. This would be one of the most powerful and wonderful truths in the universe. Hebrews 10:23 declares that we are to

hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering, for He that promised is faithful.

The word profession, “what God is saying”. Amos 3:3 asks the question:

How can two walk together except they be agreed!

Unless we learn to agree with God we will be unable to walk with Him. What God says about situations is very different from what we say. We say we are weak. God says we are strong. In fact, in Joel 3:10 we are admonished,

Let the weak say I am strong.

This is the “confession of our faith”. We are to hold fast without “wavering” because it is easy to waver in this area. We can find ourselves digging a grave with our mouths. The words we speak contain great power.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 70-71.

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[Continued] “We can find ourselves digging a grave with our mouths. The words we speak contain great power. However, it is important that we focus on the positive aspect of the power of the tongue rather than the negative, otherwise we will find ourselves with problems rather than answers.

It always seems so unfortunate that the incredible truths of God’s Word can become great bondage to people, when they remove the spirit of Scripture and develop cold doctrine, devoid of God’s intentions. When we ignore the spirit of Scripture we reduce truth to formulae, empty ceremonies and at worst, superstitions. The Word of God is extremely powerful and must be “handled accurately”(2 Timothy 2:15).

Scripture says that the combination of a believing heart and a faith filled mouth can remove literal mountains. And I mean literal, as in physical, geographically located big hills. The context of this statement from Christ was that once He had cursed a fig tree, and it was dead. It wasn’t a “spiritual” fig tree, so he is not now referring to a “spiritual” mountain. No, He is probably pointing to the very mountain, they are standing on.

This idea that it is a spiritual mountain is an attempt to make it seem reasonable. Yet God has always displayed His miraculous power in the physical realm. He opened the Red Sea, brought fire out of heaven to consume a sacrifice, changed water to wine, and healed sickness. These were in the physical. For some strange reason we think that if it’s “spiritual” it’s easier to cope with…

To explain the mountain as a spiritual thing is to attempt to explain away the fact that Jesus is opening our minds to the incredible possibilities of faith.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 70-72.

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“ [Continued] Let’s remember that faith involves the heart as well as the mouth. When people grasp the importance of possibilities of “speaking it” they may become excited about the possibilities of confession and ignore the fact that it needs to be a faith of the heart. This just leaves them with just a lot of positive statements and not necessarily a real faith.

Faith is not just a positive confession. Faith is positive. But being positive is not necessarily faith. When our hearts believe one thing and our mouths are saying another we are deluding ourselves and lying to others. This is where I have seen many come unstuck. They think that if they just say the right thing that they will be alright.

This reminds me of a bad joke I once heard. It’s about a Catholic, a Baptist and a Pentecostal all in hell… The Pentecostal said, “Well by faith I’m not here!” (As I said, a bad joke.)

However, there is an element of truth here, which we should not ignore. Deluding ourselves as to the reality of the situation can have some disastrous effects. It’s on this basis that many have “thrown out the baby with the bath water”. Faith in all its facets is essential to the health of every believer’s spiritual, emotional and physical life.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 72-73.

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“Again we see the correlation between the heart and the mouth. The heart must be in harmony with the mouth and the mouth with the heart. Saying the right words is not like some magical formula that will make a thing happen. A positive confession is not like saying “Abracadabra, Open Sesame”. This thinking has the disastrous effect in the reverse.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 74.

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“When people begin to believe that ahatever they say they will get, they become neurotic about their conversational life. The Scripture does not say you will get what you say. It declares (Mark 11:24) you willget what believe in your heart and confess with your mouth. As I said earlier, what a tragedy to see a wonderful truth of God become a bondage to Christians. They have somehow begun to focus on the negative things they say will come to pass.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 74.

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“I remember walking into our auditorium one evening and mentioning to one of the people that it was “cold in here.” She chided me and replied, “You’ll get what you say.” I said “I know, but it’s still cold in here.” How ridiculous. I’ve asked people how they are. They reply something like, “Oh, I’ve been having a rough time, oops, no, everything is just fine, not a problem in the world.” … The poor guy doesn’t know where he is! He can’t even carry on a normal conversation anymore.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 74-75.

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“I know that there are some people who are perpetually negative. I sincerely believe that if you want to fly with the eagles you cannot afford to walk with the turkeys. I will walk away from those people when they start to attack the vision.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 75.

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“When people have trusted God to move just because they are saying something positive, their faith takes a real beating if it doesn’t happen. They begin to judge God through their circumstances and feel that He has let them down that He doesn’t love them, and certainly they are not about to try again. – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 76.

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Just yesterday, a gentleman came to my office to talk about his life. He is a memberof our church but not attending at present because of his disappointment with God…He and his wife have been faithful, beautiful members of our church for years. However, he began to expect God to do all sorts of things for him, believing he was in faith. When these things didn’t happen, his faith that God do anything for him died.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 76.

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“With faith present, God is well able to deal with the impossible. Without faith, God is restricted in what he can accomplish here on earth.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 82.

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“Romans 10:8, 9 reveals the heart is our believing machine. The heart can only hold one major emotion in it at any one time.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 88.

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“The Word of God is none other than Jesus. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. When we receive the Word we receive Jesus. When we speak the Word we are speaking Christ into that situation… The Word of God is the power of God unto salvation. Paul says that if we want Christ to come to us we don’t have to go either heaven or hell to get Him. No, He is near to you, even in your mouth that is the Word of faith we preach. This means that Christ and the Word of God are one and the same.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 90-91.

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“This is what came into Abram and Sarai’s lives. God. And this event changed their destiny and made them the father and mother of a multitude. It made them the heroes of the faith for all eternity and a model for the lives of all the generations of believers.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 94.

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“It was painfully obvious that child-bearing days had long gone for Abraham and Sarah. But now they were relating to one another as though they had given birth to a multitude. They were transported into God’s time zone by their faith. They were looking back on their future. Faith had put them where God was. They could view their lives from God’s perspective. This is why Abraham “grew strong in faith giving glory to God” (Romans 4:20). He already had the answer. He could see it. He could feel it. He decided it would be so. He was committed to what God said in spite of the circumstances and the opinion of everyone else. He had asked God for it. Now he knew it had already happened… As far as Abraham was concerned it had already taken place. He was simply catching up with reality as he patiently passed through time.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 94-95.

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Self talk has become fashionable in many circles of people attempting to improve themselves in any number of areas of their lives. It’s truth that has been in God’s Word for thousands of years. We should develop a set of statements that we regularly speak to ourselves. This creates a faith about who we are and what we can achieve. Here are some examples.

I like my life.

I love my job…

I’m a happy person.

I’m a peaceful person…

I eat the right kind of food.

I read the right kind of material.

I think the right kind of thoughts.

I speak the right kind of words.

Inside the sun is shining everyday.

I find solutions to problems.

I find answers to questions.

I find what I’m looking for.

Doors open to me.

My mind is healthy.

My emotions are stable.

I’m happy with the way I look…

… I love serving God.

I’m a creative person.

I’m a fit person.

I’m looking forward to tomorrow.

I’m glad about my past.

All things are working together for good in my life.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 94-97.

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“A long after that experience, I looked back and realized that many of the elements I had seem in the imaginations in my mind were a duplicate of what actually happened. I had stumbled on to a principle of God. As I investigated the Scriptures, it became obvious to me that God spoke to His servants from the beginning of time through visions and dreams. Here we’re looking at the vision of faith. As soon as a real faith for anything arrives in your heart, you will see that thing.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 94-97.

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“Hebrew 11:1 says that

“faith is the… evidence of things things not seen.”

That is, it is the seeing of things that are not seen. He Amplified Bible translates this as:

“Faith perceiving as reality those things that are not revealed to the natural senses.”

To perceive is to see. The kind of vision and perception we are talking about is of the mind. A faith vision is an incredibly powerful creative force. Peter says that we are able to “see Him who is invisible.” As I’ve said before, faith deals with two arenas – the invisible future and the invisible present. Both are invisible to the natural eye. But not to the “spiritual” eye. Faith can see a reality that is invisible.

This also relates to the realm of impossibility – a thing you can’t see ever happening because of the impossibility of it. Experience can tell you that it doesn’t happen. The Knowledge tells you that it can” happen. The facts tell you it wont happen. Yet your faith tells you that it’s a reality. It will happen. You can see it happening, against all the odds. You need faith for what you cannot see, not for what you can see.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 99-100.

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“There has never been a Sunday in the history of our church when no-one has received Christ as Lord and Saviour. Besides the many saved in outside crusades, we have seen approximately nine thousand people receive Christ over the last nine years.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 101.

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“The first seeing is the seeing of faith. The second is the seeing of actual reality coming to pass.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 101.

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“There is a screen within our mind upon which three projections are jostling for prime time… But then there is God. He has a projector with a preset, wonderful destiny as the main feature. As we enter the Spirit through praise and worship, God will form His vision within our thionking. We pray the prayer of faith. The vision of the answer comes to mind and we see it, in living colour. Jesus himself gained faith from the Father through visions. He declared that He did nothing that He did not first see His Father doing. If Jesus could see His Father do it, He had no doubt that He could. Once the vision of the fulfillment of your dream has been planted in your mind, bring it in to your prayer life.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 102.

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“Once the vision of the fulfillment of your dream has been planted in your mind, bring it in to your prayer life. Each time you pray the picture to mind and meditate on it. Pray over it. See it happening. Destroy all the images of failure. Replace them with the image of success.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 102-103.

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“Right now in my life I spend much time dreaming over my visions of faith. I know this works. I would be a fool to ignore it. Remember, one of the mightiest keys in the Kingdom of Heaven is faith. Vision is a major part of faith, for we walk by faith and not by sight. Faith is directly contrasted to natural eye sight.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 103.

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“In Ephesians 3:20 Paul says that

God is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think.

The Greek word for “think” here is “no’eo.” This literally means “to conceive and perceive.” Once we are visualizing some-thing, God is able to do exceedingly abundantly above it.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 103.

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“God speaks to Jacob in a dream, telling him to make some rods of poplar. He was to strip them and make them spotted and speckled. He put these rods in front of the sheeps and goats when they mated. The plan was to produce spotted and speckled animals from solid coloured ones. This is highly unlikely and those that are speckled and spotted are very rare. So it was against all the odds that Jacob was working. However, he believed God. He put the rods in place. Now it may seem as though Jacob was hoping that the animals would be influenced by the rods and produce what they were looking at, at the time of conception.

There is a truth in this. People will become the vision that you place in front of them. They will become what you show them they can be.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 103.

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“But the main function of the rods was to influence Jacob himself.

Every time the animals came to the watering troughs and mated, Jacob would see the spotted and speckled rods. He could see these sheep giving birth to spotted and speckled offering. He had already seen this in a dream God had given him (Genesis 31:10 – “in the breeding season I once had a dream which I looked up and saw…”). The rods reminded him of the vision he received from God. When he saw them, his faith was renewed and he could see thousands of spotted and speckled sheep and goals. His faith made it happen. God responds to faith. Faith is seeing what cannot be seen. Faith is birthed in our heart by visions from God.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 104-5.

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“Abraham was the same. God told Abraham to look towards the stars. In the coolest desert night there was an uncountable multitude of stars in the clear heavens above. God simply said to Abraham, “So shall your see be.” God said “Look at the sand. So shall thy seed be” (Genesis 15:5). From that time onward, Abraham had the vision of stars and sand in his mind whenever he thought on his future. He knew he and Sarah would have their own child and from him would spring an uncountable multitude. Like stars, sand and dust. His faith was strong. He held to the vision of faith in his heart.

All of it came to pass.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 105.

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“James boldly declares that “faith without works is dead”. It’s like the body without the spirit. He likens faith to our body and the actions of faith to our spirit.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 106.

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“Faith is lifeless unless you act on it. T.L. Osbourne says: “When the promises of God are believed and acted upon they become the power of God”. We can do all the things we have previously talked about about: desire, decision, prayer, speaking faith, seeing the answer, but if we don’t act our faith it is all to no avail.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 107.

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“Works must always accompany faith.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 107.

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“Faith is lifeless unless you act on it. T.L Osbourne says: “When the promises of God are believed and acted upon they become the power of God”.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 107.

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“We can do all the things we have previously talked about about: desire, decision, prayer, speaking faith, seeing the answer, but if we don’t act our faith it is all to no avail.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 107.

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“God has three modes of accomplishing things here on earth. He works in us, through us, and for us. He works in us from one degree to the next. He is at work increasing our faith. This is so that He can work though us. This means that we will see God move through our moving. As we begin to move, God moves.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 108.

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“Fear paralyses faith. It is the worst enemy of faith. Most problems the world faces have their roots in fear. The “fearful” are at the top of the list of those who are thrown into the lake of fire.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 108.

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“Whenever I’m involved in a faith project, which seems to be about every day of my life, thanks be to God, I ask the Lord to show me what to do as an act of faith. Sometimes I find that all He requires is some small act of faith. Other times, He is looking for a big one. Whatever it is the act of faith always releases faith.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 110.

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“Faith cannot operate independently of God. We should never want it to. Faith is a gift in our lives enabling us to serve God, not ourselves.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 110.

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“Faith has to do with the invisible. Patience has to do with time.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 110.

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“Faith secures what you want. Patience gets it to you when God wants to give it. He does not want us to operating independently of him.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 116.

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“Joshua felt embarrassed. But he knew God’s voice and as he walked around the city, his faith grew day by day.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 116.

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“Faith has legs. Boldly step out and… DO IT!– Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 117.

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“Our minds need faith. We need assurance in our minds. Mental faith is not something we hear a lot of.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 119.

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“The symptom of a weak mental faith is an overactive condemning conscience. It is indecision for fear of making the “wrong” decision. It is second guessing yourself every time you take a progressive step.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 120.

“The two trees that Adam and Eve were given the choice of eating from were the tree of life or the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The latter sounds like a conscience doesn’t it? This knowledge of good and evil was obviously death for this was the warning God gave them against eating it: “lest they die”.”– Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 120.

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“… The power of the conscience must not be under-estimated. Once awakened, it can become a monster in the mind of the eager Christian who only wants to please God. He will imagine that anything that his conscience says, is appropriate action to take in order to achieve a walk with God. This is faulty thinking and requires adjustment. The conscience can be educated. It needs to be educated. Guilt can be the most effective way of oppressing and binding the spirit of any believer.

The conscience can very easily be a friend of the devil in his effort to wear out the saints.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 120-121.

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“Many Christians have been raised in environments where guilt has been used freely used to manipulate them into being religious. This produces a dead Christianity. God motivates his people with faith, love and hope, not fear, doubt and guilt but sincere Christians find it easy to believe that their conscience is the voice of God.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 121.

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It’s our faith that justifies us before God.

If our faith is damaged, then so is our relationship with the Lord. We should live within the boundaries of our faith and continue to nourish our spirit with the Word of God so that we grow in faith.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 121.

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“The key then is to live in faith, with the mental resolution not to come under condemnation.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 127.

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“A poor self image is not just a minor handicap boundaries of our faith and continue to nourish our spirit with the Word of God so that we grow in faith.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 130.

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“It is impossible to have two emotions within your heart at once. There will either be fear or faith. When you are building faith you are starving fear.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 134.

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[In reference to Hebrews 10:35] “This is saying that when we begin to doubt and fear and indulge in unbelief, we begin to “shrink”. Our self image actually begins to diminish. The account in Numbers 13:33 puts it even more succinctly:

We saw giants there. We were grasshoppers in their sight, and so we were in their own sight.

They saw themselves through the eyes of others. A self image is the way you see yourselves. “Image” means reflection, picture, reproduction. Our self-image is held within our minds. It is formed by the words people speak to us… That’s why it is so important to impart courage into one another all the time. We are to give each other an image to live up to, not one to live down to.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 135.

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“The only men who kept their self-image intact were Joshua and Caleb. Both these men preached a great positive message to the congregation, that they should take the land. Their poor self-images could not hear good news.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 136.

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When we believe the negatives we diminish in size. When we diminish in size, we move backwards. When we move backwards, we move towards destruction. When we believe God and have a healthy self-image we move forwards. When we move forwards we move towards victory, salvation and the power of God. We fulfil our destiny. We possess our Promised Land.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 136-137.

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“We are the image of God in the earth. We are extensions of His character. We are exhibits of His power on earth.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 136-137.

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“We are made in the image of a being who created the entire universe in just six days. He did it with the words of His mouth. Can you see yourself doing this? He said in Mark 11:23

“if you tell a mountain to be removed and don’t doubt in your heart, it will move.”

Jesus told a tree to die and it did. He also walked on the water. In the original creation, we find that Adam use his mouth to name all the animals. This was to know dominion in the world he lived in.

We name our worlds too. Many “opportunities” that we face we call “problems”. From that point on, the image of God in us has empowered those words to make it a problem. We name our world all the time. Often to our disadvantage. Adam was shown the power of the tongue. He was to rule over the entire earth in this manner.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 137-138.

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“Jesus told a tree to die and it did. He also walked on the water.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 137-138.

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[Continued] “One of the effects of the curse was that Adam would have to work by the sweat of his brow to subdue the earth. If he wanted to cross water, he would have to build a boat by the sweat of his brow. Jesus just walked across it. If Adam wanted to move a mountain he would have had to dig it out of the way. Jesus said you could just speak to it and it would animal. The same with the tree. The same with anything. It all depends on whether we see ourselves as mere men or actual sons and daughters of the Most High God.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 138.

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[Continued] “We have been made in His likeness. No matter what you may encounter giants, demons, problems of any kind, if they see an image of God approaching, they are going to scatter.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 138.

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[Continued] “The Bible sees you in a particular way. It sees you as totally forgiven. It sees you as completely righteous before God. It sees you healthy, happy and prosperous. If this is not the image inside your head you need to take time out to destroy the old and plant the new.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 138.

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[Continued] “Get quiet. Get on your own. Put the Bible in front of you. Find the scriptures which talk about who you are in Christ. Think about them. Apply them to your circumstances. See yourself winning. Believe this. Truth works!” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 139.

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[Continued] “Good self-image begins with a healthy self-love. This is a feeling of well-being towards yourself, about who you are. It is respecting yourself. It is liking yourself.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 139.

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(Note: Pringle Goes on to demonstrate that ‘self-image’ gives us the faith to conquer Goliath in 1 Samuel 17. What about Goliath’s ‘self-image’. Nebuchadnezzar?)

“But life runs on laws. One of these laws is the law of self-image. The way we see ourselves will become a reality.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 142.

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“Yet the source of faith should always be the Word of God. The Bible is the source of everything we need for this life. 2 Peter 1:3 tells us that the mighty promises of Go have given us

“… everything that pertains to life and godliness.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 143.

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“If God clothes the grass, how much more will He clothe His own children? But this is just the beginning of a sense of self-worth.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 144-143.

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“The Old Testament reveals Him as “el Shaddai”. The mighty provider. He is not “El Cheapo”. He provides in abundance. He provides the best.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 147.

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“For example, some have said that if man were meant to fly God would have given him wings. Not so. God did mean us to fly and so He gave us a brain. By the invention of aircraft we can fly higher and faster than any bird.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 148.

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The promises of God become the power of God when they are believed and acted upon. – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 149.

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“A famine had hit the land. Food was scarce and water was precious. But God’s man was living with plenty. Every morning and evening the ravens delivered a delicious breakfast and a gourmet dinner to Elijah!… Elijah was living on the supply of EL Shaddai.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 151.

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[Continued] “After a while the brook began to run out of water. The Lord instructed Elijah to go to Zarephath. On the journey Elijah wonders what kind of extraordinarily wealthy widow the Lord is sending him to. Obviously she has inherited a fortune from her late husband and doesn’t know what to do with it! What better purpose than to look after God’s man? He arrives at Zarephath and spots a woman, “thin, almost ready to die”. And when he discovers that this is the widow we can imagine him turning with his face to the sky and asking God if He’s made a mistake.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 151-150.

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“God always keeps us in the area of faith so that we trust in Him. Elijah begins to work a miracle. But it’s a miracle any of us are well able to perform. It’s a miracle based on the law of giving. The widow had nothing but a handful of meal in the house. She was gathering sticks to start a fire, cook the meal and share it with her two sons. And then there was only the prospect of death. There was no more food. But Elijah was walking in faith. He knew that God was a provider. He told her to do as she intended but to give the cake to him to eat. This is one of the toughest things I see God asking a man to do in the Bible. Here is Elijah who’s been living on the “good of the land” up at the brook Cherith and now he’s asking this poor, scrawny widow and her two sons to give him their last piece of food. But Elijah understands the law of sowing and reaping.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 152.

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“When Paul told the Philippians that God would supply all their need, he was basing it on the fact that they had just sent him a generous financial gift. Their generosity would trigger one of the most powerful spiritual laws in existence. It is the law that the widow of Zarephath discovered when Elijah told her to give away her last meal.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 153.

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“For the provision of God constantly to be at work in our lives we must activate the laws of God.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 153.

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“In 2Corinthians 9:6-11 Paul shows us how it works. Firstly the MEASURE you sow will be the measure of your reaping.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 153-154.

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[Continued] “If a farmer scatters seed over a small corner of his field there’s little point in his expecting to reap a harvest from that entire field. If he sows a hundred seeds, the absolute best he can do is to reap a hundred plants.

If he sows a hundred thousands seeds through, and covers his field, he can expect to reap an enormous harvest from the entire field. Scripture says that he who sows sparingly will reap sparingly.

Secondly, WHAT you sow is what you will reap. Jesus said:

“Give and IT will be given to you.”

About eighteen years ago I gave away my only guitar to a person who really wanted one. Ever since then we have been given guitars! At least once a year. So we just keep getting and giving guitars.

In 1976 I gave away a suit to someone who really liked it. Ever since that time I haven’t had to purchase one of the many suits I’ve needed over the years. It’s the most astonishing thing I’ve seen. This may not happen exactly like that in every area. But when you give with faith and cheerfulness in your heart you are sowing seed.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 153-154.

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[Continued] “If a farmer plants tomato seeds he doesn’t expect to reap apples from them. The kind of seed you sow will be what you reap. This is obviously the greatest need our economies have. We have based all our economies on getting, not giving. We get to get more, not to give. That’s the law. The more we attempt to grasp for ourselves the less we will actually keep. But when we learn to give we experience the blessings of God upon our finances.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 155

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[Continued] “This especially applies in the world of tithing. Tithing in one sense is not actually giving. The tithe belongs to God, not to us. Malachi the prophet says that when we keep the tithe we are actually “robbing God”.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 155

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[Continued] “When Jericho was taken by the Israelites, it was devoted to destruction. The city was the first-fruits of the Promised Land. Joshua issued the command that no-one in Israel was to have anything of the city of Jericho. The city was destroyed completely. Nobody took any of the forbidden goods. They were under the “ban”. Except for one man, Achan. He stole a bar of gold and garment from the city. When they attempted to take the next city they were defeated. The blessing of God was no longer with them. The entire nation of Israel was defeated by a puny town call Ai because this man had taken something that belonged to God. He had bought a curse upon himself, his family and the entire nation.

When we withhold the tithe we bring upon ourselves a curse. We are holding onto something that belongs to God. However, God has given us the opportunity of giving it to Him. As we give God the tithe He commands a blessing upon us. This blessing will be so large that:

“there will not be room enough to contain it.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 155-156.

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[Continued] “Many other promises accompany the giving of the tithe. But it must be given to God. It goes to His storehouse. That’s the church where you are a member – where you are pastured and fed the Word of God. Some I know give their tithes to ministries outside the church. That’s the offering that you can do with as you please. But the tithe belongs in God’s House. (Try picking up a loaf of bread from one baker’s shop and paying for it at another. I promise you it won’t work!) For a financial blessing to flow, we must be generous to both God and man in our giving of money. We reap WHAT we sow.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 156.

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[Continued] “Thirdly, WHEN we sow determines when we will reap. We need to sow well before we plan to reap. The time to sow is not when you have a need. You are to be constantly sowing your world with generous actions of faith. Oral Roberts has called this “seed faith”. Anyone who plants a seed has faith that it will become a plant in time. We all realize that it’s not going to happen overnight, but faith and patience inherit the promises of God.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 156-157.

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[Continued] “Fourthly, the QUALITY of what we sow is what we will reap. We are to be provided from God’s abundant storehouse. Paul said:

“according to His riches in glory.”

Not according to our bank balance. Not according to this world’s expectations. Not according to how religion has said He will do it. But according to HIS riches in glory by Christ Jesus.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 157.

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[Continued] “Imagine, if your son went off to his friends with a bicycle that had no seat, had buckled wheels, flat tyres, a broken bell and twisted frame, and he told his friends that you had given it to him for his birthday. You’d be highly embarrassed, especially when the parents of the others saw it. You would feel ashamed, and so you should, if you had given him a bicycle like that. But this is how some Christians think God provides for them. With broken-down, second hand things that don’t work. God is a good God and not short of supply. He owns the entire earth. There are billions of barrels of oil in the earth. There are millions of tons of gold, silver and copper in the earth. There are diamonds galore. There are millions of animals, cattle and creatures of all kinds. There are five billion people. He owns the entire earth and all it contains, including the wealth of all the humans on the planet. If He so chooses He is quite able to move the wealth of the wicked into the bank accounts of the righteous.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 157-158.

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[Continued] “God has no shortage of supply. And if He did find that He was short of anything, He would simply create more, as Jesus did with bread and fish and wine. Never underestimate God’s great ability to supply for you. The trouble in provision is not God. It’s with us. If we can correct our thinking, enlarge our thinking, we will enjoy the abundance of God’s quality provision.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 157-158.

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“The victorious Christian believer delights in giving because it’s in harmony with his new nature. We live to give, not to get.– Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 158.

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[Continued] “The young lad who came to Jesus discovered that we reap what we sow no matter who we are. The laws of God are no respectger of persons. They work for young and old, big and small people, yellow or white people, rich or poor people. No matter who you are, God’s laws will work for you. A lad approached Jesus with his lunch. He was concerned for Jesus. He had been teaching for a long time and hadn’t eaten anything. Jesus took the bread and fishes and broke them. Distributing them to the disciples, He told them to give to the people. 5000 men. Possibly 20,000 people in all. Everyone ate and was filled. At the end of the day the boy took home 12 baskets full of leftovers.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 158-159.

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[Continued] “Many times I’ve heard people say, “God will supply your need, but not your greed.” The feeling that gives me is that whatever I desire will fall into that greedy category. I get the feeling God is a person whose last desire is that we should enjoy ourselves in any way at all. I’m glad that people like that aren’t God. They would have given us a black and white vision with nothing much else but potatoes and water for food. That’s about all we really need. But God does not provide for our need at subsistence level. He provides accorsing to “HIS RICHES IN GLORY”. – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 159.

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[Continued] “The boy went home with far more than he needed. Jesus created about 180 gallons of wine at the wedding. No wedding is going to need that much wine. And it was the best wine. He provides an abundance of the best.

The earth shows clearly the beautiful abundance of God, it contains an absolute extravagance of things we don’t need. Peacocks, pineapples, mangoes, lobsters, zebras, flowers of a million different kinds.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 159-160.

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“This is where many come adrift. Because the prayer is not being answered in their time frame they let faith go. This is the aborting of a dream. Don’t faint.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 163.

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“Martha’s faith was tested when her brother Lazarus died. She had called for Jesus when her brother was just sick. Jesus did not come immediately, but waited four days. During this time Lazarus died. When Jesus finally did arrive, Martha chided Him. She said that if He had come sooner her brother would not have died. Jesus asked her if she had faith. She said she believed that her brother would rise in the resurrection. She had faith for the future and the past. “If you had been here yesterday it would all be fine not, but now he is dead. The future is all we can hope for. He will rise at the resurrection.” But Martha had no faith for the present. She failed in the test of faith, but that wasn’t going to stop Jesus from acting. He would teach her the ways of God. He spoke and Lazarus was raised from the dead!” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 166-165.

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“Peter says our faith emerges from the fore like “gold”. This is what we do business in heaven with. It is the currency, the “gold” of heaven… FAITH!” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 165.

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“He [Satan] began by saying to Eve “Hath God said…” He attempted to bring doubt into her mind as to whether she had heard from God correctly. She only had a second-hand revelation anyway. Adam had received the command to not eat from the tree. So the revelation was not so strong in her. She replied to the devil.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 167.

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[Continued] “One of the first rules of warfare is never enter into conversation with the devil. He is cunning, evil and wise. He will always win a debate. He has been at it for centuries.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 168.

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“Luke 4;1-13 tells how, when Jesus is tempted by the devil in the wilderness, He responds not with conversation, but with commands based on the Word of God. The Word of God is the Sword of the Spirit. It is what we do battle with against all the schemes of the devil. We fight our war against the powers of darkness with the scripture.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 169.

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“The most powerful weapon we have is the Word of God.

Ephesians 6:17 says,

“Take up the sword of the spirit.”

God won’t do it all for you. You have to put the armour on. It isn’t automatically going to fall on you. You “take up” the Sword of the Spirit. How? By speaking it.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 169.

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[Continued] “In the first round in this fight against the Son of God, the devil takes a beating. He felt the impact and power of the Word so he himself comes back with Scripture. He’s capable of using quotations from the bible himself. He appeals to Jesus to throw Himself down from the pinnacle of the temple so that the angels will rescue Him. Surely this would settle once for all that He was the Son of God… Jesus is undeterred. He speaks the Word back with a near fatal blow to the devil.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 170.

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“They marched against the Hitties, Amorites and Jebusites. Today we don’t face any of these enemies but we do face enemies like the “Billites”, the “Taxites”, the “Family-feudites”! The “Billites” arrive in your letter box… It looks innocent enough, but when you open it, an enormous giant jumps out of it. You look at the figure at the bottom of the page and wonder if it’s an offer on the house! … This is what warfare is all about.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, 2001, pg 170-171.

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“The devil flees. The attitude with which we resist the devil in warfare is not one of polite request. It is meant to be a stern rebuke. Angered repulse. Urgent, earnest resistance.

When the Israelites entered the land of Canaan they were told by God to be absolutely ruthless with their enemies and destroy them completely. They marched against the Hittites, Amorites and Jebusites. Today we don’t face any of these enemies but we do face enemies like the “Billites”, the “Taxites”, the “Family-feudites”! The “Billites” arrive in your letter box. They look innocuous anough. This one’s from the electricity company. It looks innocent enough, but when you open it, an enormous giant jumps out of it. You look at the figure at the bottom of the page and wonder if it’s an offer on the house! All the joy, peace and love is stolen immediately from you heart. You walk through the house flicking off all the lights. You turn off the hot water, shouting at everyone that they’re not to have another bath for a week. That night you eat raw vegetables around a candle. Many things happen that can steal our peace.

This is what spiritual warfare is all about.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 170-171.

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[Continued] “Don’t let the devil keep stealing your peace and joy. Stand up and resist. Fight. Don’t just roll over and see your health, prosperity, provision and soundness of mind all just be taken from you. Refuse it. Fight to maintain your possessions. Your inheritance will be contested. Warfare means taking the land. Then it’s defending your possessions once you’ve got them. Be spirit in your fight against Satan. Use the mighty Word of God. Bring those strongholds to the ground. Get angry with your real enemy, the devil.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 171-172.

You’re born of God to win.” – Phil Pringle, Faith, 2001, pg 172.

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Phil Pringle Said What? (II)

November 1, 2010

Note: All quotes are from Phil Pringle’s book, ‘Moving In The Spirit’ (1994). This book is still promoted by him and are promoted in his colleges. His college library has shelves dedicated to his material. He still promotes ALL his books to this day. Some quotes will seem out of place or uninteresting. I’d encourage you to compare them to his other quotes. These quotes are for the purpose of critique and review.

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“Remember ‘The head moves quickly but the heart moves slowly’. We need time for our heart to become involved and our spirit nourished. We begin most of our meetings with songs and worship. We enter with praise to God. We may sing a song twice and feel the anointing begin to fall. Should we stop prematurely for some reason, we may be unaware that our people are just beginning to grasp it with their hearts. The ‘feeling of God’ is beginning to come upon the congregation. Sing it twenty, thirty times if the power of God remains on it.

When we decide to break with traditional ways of doing things, allowing the Spirit to move, we will experience many things our hearts crave for. And God’s.

Awake to the Holy Spirit and do what He wants. This creates faith. This creates atmospheres for salvation, healing, prosperity, hope and joy.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 19-20.

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“Paul calls us ministers of the Spirit. If we are responsible for ministry in a service or small group meeting, Paul’s words mean we can interpret what the Spirit is saying to any gathering of God’s people. We should be carrying the Holy Ghost into meetings. We should emerge from the place of prayer with His power on us. Jesus told his disciples, ‘wait’, until clothed with power from on high.

We don’t stand in the pulpit naked of the power of God. Rather, ‘clothed’ with the Holy Ghost power. This is numero uno on the priorities for a New Testament minister.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 20.

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“Atmospheres are affected heavily by the anointing of God. When an anointing for salvation is in a building, people find it easy making the decision to receive Christ. This applies to all the gifts of the Spirit. Under the anointing for healing, people receive healing easily. The same applies to prophecy, baptism in the Spirit, prayer, preaching and deliverance. There are anointings for all of these areas. Without that anointing, we vainly struggle in the flesh while attempting spiritual results. Luke 5:17 says:

‘The power of the Lod was present to heal them.’

This means the power of God can linger, waiting for the man of God to release it into those he is ministering to. In this atmosphere, it is the connection of the Word of God with faith that brings supernatural results.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 21.

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“The story of Moses reveals that lifting hands to God has spiritual power. (Exodus 17:8-13).” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 22.

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“The power of an atmosphere occurs at the descending of Old Testament Shekinah glory: visible evidence of God’s presence.

It arrives at Solomon’s temple dedication. [Excerpts read from 2 Chr 5:13-14 (NKJV)]

The priests collapsed, unable to remain standing. Their strength left them. They fell before the Lord. This same cloud hovered Israel as they traversed the Sinai desert. By day, it gave cool shade from a hot sun. At night it became a pillar of fire, warming God’s people in a freezing wilderness.

Straying from this supernatural covering, bought death from the sun by day and death from the cold by night.

God’s people have always been warned. Stay close to the presence of God. Stay close to the ‘cloud’. Our homes should be filled with an atmosphere of God. It should be there when people visit us. It acts as an attitude conditioner.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 23.

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“The Holy Spirit is a dove. He only rests on what is clean and calm. Doves will not settle on anything unclean or restless. That is why the dove returned to Noah in the ark. The turbulent sea provided no resting place.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 29.

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“We learn to carry the presence of God into our churches, homes, into our work places. The Ark of Moses’ Tabernacle was transported on the shoulders of priests alone. God ordained it so… It was carried by men. Chosen men. Men ordained by God. Priests.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 27-8.

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“On the Day of Pentecost twelve men stood, supernaturally speaking other languages, also carrying the presence of God.The baptism of the Holy Spirit. The ‘Ark’ of the New Testament.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 28.

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“God chooses Joshua over Caleb to be the leader who enables Israel to possess their land. The reason? Joshua lingers in the presence of God in the tabernacle even after Moses had left. (Ex 33:11)” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 28.

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“The Old Testament describes numerous manifestations of the Father. The Son and Holy Spirit occasionally appear, but it is clear Who was emphasized to the Earth from Creation to Malachi. The Father.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 35.

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The Bible is the tangible mind of God.– Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 45.

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“Faith knows feelings are unreliable as a basis for action. Neither does faith rely on our natural senses… It does not depend on the ability of man.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 46.

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“Initially I have no physical evidence of what I am believing… However, I definitely believe the Holy Spirit is pouring out of my life into others as I preach. When counselling, the Holy Ghost flows from me to that person. When I worship, the Spirit of God is flowing out of me into the heavens as a river of inspired praise to God. When I pray or prophesy over someone, the Holy Spirit is pouring into their life. How do I know this is so? Not by the sight of my eyes. Not by my feelings. I am assured by the unfailing Word of God. It is so!

Other scriptures also point to this. As we believe God’s Word and act on it, the truth we believe becomes reality. It translates from being a principle on paper to reality in this physical world. God moves in response to faith, without which, it is impossible to please Him (Hebrews 11:6).” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 46.

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“Faith sees God at work in us. Faith sees God at work through us. You believe as you pray. The power of God brings answers. Faith sees answers before they happen. Fear sees failure and despair. Both faith and fear use the imagination. Fear comes naturally to the human heart. Faith does not. It is a decision to believe. By this decision, doubt is displaced. By faith.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 47.

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“Oral Roberts says he has never seen God use a discouraged man. The Spirit moves through men and women who are bold, confident and assured. Our confidence (faith), is based on the Word of God, and what we hear from God. A Rhema. This is the source of faith.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 49.

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To hear God’s voice we must be still… The second aspect of stillness is that we stopGod is waiting for His people to wait for Him!– Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 50-51.

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“Visions from the prophets are given to motivate their hearers to action.

One of the most sensational things on earth is a vision from God. Vision ignites fire in our spirit. It births the ‘prayer of faith’. It is imperative we see in the Spirit so we understand the will of God.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 59.

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“Visions possess greater significance than just entertainment! Visions have power.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 66.

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“As mentioned earlier, Joseph is gifted in interpreting dreams. His life is mostly spent serving and interpreting the dreams of others. He fulfilled the will of God in his life by helping others achieve the purpose of God in theirs.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 67.

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“Right now as you read this, I believe an anointing of the Holy Ghost will come upon you. This anointing will be like honey and oil mixed together. It will be sweet and flowing. If you just allow your consciousness to move towards God right now, you will sense His presence. As the anointing settles, stillness comes over your mind and heart. This prepares you to hear from God. This enables ‘the eyes of the heart’ to be opened, to see in the Spirit.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 69.

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God is not a poor communicator.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 69.

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“… A person with the gift of prophecy is able to prophesy at almost any time they wish.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 72.

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“A minister feels compassion for the people he is called to. This prompts him with a particular spiritual desire towards them. To heal them. To give them guidance. To lead them. To prophesy over them. Love fans gifts into flame.

Gifts of the Spirit are given to the minister, empowering him to build up the church. This means to increase it both horizontally, by adding more people to the Kingdom, and vertically, by bringing maturity in the believers. Occasionally I see words over people.

I see visions very easily under the touch of God. Many times I have told people what I see. I occasionally prophesy over members in church. Many times they are new people. One person decided to stay as the result of a word directly spoken over them. A responsible administration of the gifts plants people securely in God’s house. This member reasoned that – “If this is where God is going to speak to me, I’m staying!” People want to be where God is moving, where He is speaking, healing, doing things. Gifts build the church.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 72-73.

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“Angelic tongues are communications from God to man. This is an unintelligible (to earthly ears) message. It seems unintelligible, but is a definite language. It is the language of angels (1 Corinthians 13:1). It is a message from God, via an angel, spoken by a believer, to the church. It mostly happens in calmer periods during corporate worship or prayer. It comes as an authorative, bold proclamation from God. Angelic tongues need interpretation. The Bible says the person giving the message should pray they also interpret (1 Cor 14:13). If unable to do so, they are not to give the message unless an interpreter is present. Uninterpreted, the message has no meaning and no edifying power for the church. It is an unearthly, heavenly language, demanding spiritual ‘decoding’.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 76-77.

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“Romans 8 tells that the Holy Spirit prays through us. Sometimes those prayers are completely in tongues.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 78.

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“People sometimes share their visions or dreams with me. Often they don’t understand their meaning, even though they feel they are significant. As they speak, clear understanding comes to me. This is a gift of interpretation at work.

Effective ministry must include the ability to move in supernatural interpretations of the unknown. We are Ministers of the Spirit.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 78-79.

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“The gift of prophecy does not make a person a prophet. Prophets foretell future events with accurate detail. Times, names. Dates, places, past and future events are revealed to the person occupying this office. A person with the gift of prophecy does not major on details such as these but speaks in general terms. The specifics are in the ears of the hearer. The hearers understand clearly what the Lord is saying to them regarding the details of their lives, even though no specifics are mentioned in the prophecy.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 79.

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“Some critical people express their opinions through prophecy. This must be guarded against. The people themselves will imagine this is how everyone operates gifts of the Spirit. It opens the door for self-deception. In addition, the meeting will fall flat after such a ‘word’, grieving the Spirit. True prophecy brings the feeling of God to a gathering. It does not subtract from the atmosphere, but adds to it. If prophecy condemns people, it is not from the Lord. The anointing descends as prophecy comes. People rise in victory, praise and worship.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 80.

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“In excitement people prophesy things way beyond what God is saying. Paul says to prophesy ‘according to your faith” (Romans 12:6). Can you believe what you are prophesying? If not, don’t say it. You’ll impart more doubt than faith. If you get excited while you are prophesying, do not allow emotions or desires to take over and say something like: ‘God is going to save the entire city.’ When this doesn’t happen your faith in the gift is damaged. Others’ opinion of your ministry is not helped.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 81.

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“Prophecy must be judged. Only those approved should be able to prophesy to gatherings of God’s people. ” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 81.

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“Because we do not tolerate people delivering spurious messages or acting strangely in meetings, our people feel confident bringing unsaved people, or Christian friends, without embarrassment.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 82.

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“Prophecy is for edification, exhortation and comfort, to build up, challenge, and encourage. Here’s an example of what a prophecy should sound like:

‘You are my children, I know you each by name, I have called you, saved you and brought you into my family…’ (i.e. edification, building up)’… Therefore take my love to the world. Seek out those who are lonely and confused and freely give them what I have given you…’ (i.e. exhortation, challenge)’… And I will be with you, supply all your needs and confirm your words, for I am for you. Therefore who can be against you..?’ (i.e comfort, giving hope and promise.)” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, pg 82.

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“The New Testament minister should be able to discern what God is doing. We are to understand the movings of the Holy Spirit, what He is doing. We should know what the ‘mood’ of the Spirit is. We should be able to discern the atmosphere of a place, whether good or bad. Demons restrict the moving of the Spirit; they hinder the release of God’s people in faith, prayer, fellowship and worship. We should be aware of any demonic activity and deal with it in the name of Jesus, so that we pray with effect.

Discerning of spirits is given so we correctly perceive the true motivation of people’s actions and words. Understanding their spirit, we approach each situation with our eyes open. That is exactly what revelation gifts are for; the revealing of things hidden to the natural man. Remember, all the gifts of the Spirit are to be used with love. If I understand a person’s spirit, I can help them, even though they may be unwilling to uncover it themselves.

All gifts are also operated by faith. John 7:37 says those who believe will receive and release the Spirit. Faith is always linked with a willingness to act for God. Unwilling to act, we never see how a thing is possible.

In other words, we will not receive faith for accomplishing God’s work, if we do not act… When people resist a positive idea, and refuse to get involved in doing anything, they become spectators. They watch from the sidelines, generally critical, never kicking any goals of their own. The people who say “yes’, and show a willing heart, to help, to work, to act, always find faith and reasons why it ‘can be done’.

Discerning of spirits gives knowledge of angels and their activities. In the early 80s our church experienced rapid growth. Literally hundreds of people were joining our church. We had also established other churches in the city. Each week on  a Friday afternoon the pastors of those churches and our own pastors came together to pray. One particular Friday angels were also present. I had never seen angels before or even sensed them as I did at that moment. They were doing something that day, but I couldn’t understand what it was. That night we held our weekly prayer meeting. Here again I was aware of angels. They were moving quickly around the room. They had rods in their hands. Again I didn’t have understanding of what they were doing. On Sunday in our morning worship service , once more angels were moving amongst the congregation. Finally it ‘clicked’. The rods in their hands were measuring rods. They were measuring our church! On Friday they had measured our leadership. On Friday night they had measured our prayer meeting. Now Sunday morning they were measuring our worship. The congregation were measured on the way in and on the way out of Church. Our attitudes, effectiveness, desires, faith, vision, vision and obedience were all under the scrutiny of God. I related this to the Church. We were excited. Others knew God was visiting us.

During these ‘discernings’, I did not actually ‘see’ an angel. I simply discerned that angels were present.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, Chapter: The Gifts of the Spirit, Revelation Gifts, 3. Discerning of Spirits, pg 86-87.

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“… The speaker, Bob Mumford, asked people to stand if they felt the message had touched home and they wanted to receive from God.

We were at the back of the hall, not being particularly involved with the meeting. But both Chris and I did want to hear from God, so we stood. As soon as we did I was face to ace with an angel. His face was the most beautiful I had ever see. He was like a flame with a body. He was about the same height as I. His head turned to heaven. At the same time he drew a sword from his side. He lifted the sword, looked back in my face and let the sword fall on my shoulder in commissioning fashion. He then pronounced one word. ‘Ready.’ It was all over within seconds. I was breathless.

I knew it related to the time angels with measuring rods had visited our church. I also knew it related to our current building change-over plans. Within two weeks we received permission to proceed into our building.

My conclusion was that the angels had measured us to see if we were ready for greater growth. Then a tailor-made situation had been created for that. The new building was that situation. Although we saw the Council being the cause of delays, perhaps God had been waiting for us to be in a place where we could cope with greater growth. We operated far more effectively once in that new building. Our church planting exploded all over Australia and began to reach major cities around the world.

Understand when, why and what, God is doing. This is how we keep in step with Him. The discerning of spirits is how we achieve this.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, Chapter: The Gifts of the Spirit, Revelation Gifts, 3. Discerning of Spirits, 1994, pg 88.

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POWER GIFTS

1. FAITH

All gifts of the Spirit are qualities that should be active in our lives as Christians. Some gifts are more active in us than others. These also seem more easily accessed. For me, the gift of faith is a major spiritual thrust, weaving its way through my whole Christian life.

Ever since I was born again I felt strong drawings to faith. I read everything I could lay my hands on about it.  I listened to preaching that filled me with faith in God.

The gift of faith is the ability to believe for positive results under impossible circumstances. It believes God will bring to pass things unheard of. The gift of faith makes things happen that would not otherwise have occurred. The gift of faith knows it has something before it even exists. It grants assurance that nothing is impossible. This gift lived in Joshua and Caleb concerning Canaan. It lived in David running to Goliath. It lived in Peter walking on water. It lived powerfully in him again speaking to a cripple at the Gate Beautiful telling him, ‘Rise and walk’.

The principles of faith must be grasped for this gift to be active.

The Word of God feeds this gift. Faith lives because of hearing the Word of God. Faith speaks. Faith creates things through speaking. Paul talks of the ‘word of faith’ which we preach (Romans 10:18). 2 Corinthians 4:13 refers to the Psalmist saying ‘he believed, therefore he spoke’. Faith’s first expression is speech. It prophesies something will come to pass. It commands things to happen. It speaks to circumstances, inanimate objects and situations, commanding changes. And changes happen. Faith gets the job done. Hebrews 11 attests bundantly to that. Fath hears the rhema of God, then acts. God shows complete contempt for those who hear the word of God, but do not believe it or act upon it.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, 1994, pg 89-90.

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“[Continued] The gift of faith is identified by unnatural boldness in prayer and preaching. It deals with others.

It is visionary. It views the future with absolute assurance and hope.

It thinks positively. It hates negativity.

It feeds on who we are in Christ and also our potential in Him.

It speaks to other people, to situations and often to itself.

Faith dreams and meditates on the finished results of prayer. It does not ponder anxieties.

It lifts others by inecting faith into their lives. It imparts the ability to believe and trust God.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, 1994, pg 90.

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“[Continued] Faith is smiling, happy and victorious; undefeatable. No matter how bad a situation becomes, no matter how much opposition arises, faith knows what it has will not be denied.

Faith already has the answer and knows it cannot help coming to pass.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, 1994, pg 90.

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“People receiving prayer should not do away with their medication. They should see their doctor. Let him verify the healing. Jesus told lepers to see the priests, so they could confirm their cleansing. (Luke 17:14).”– Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, 1994, pg 91.

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“Pretending doesn’t heal anyone. Faith does! Pretending only prevents real faith from growing. While pretending to have a faith bigger than it is, we hinder real faith from rising. Honesty is part of healing too.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, 1994, pg 91.

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“If people are not healed, do not accuse them of sin or of having insufficient faith. You may be the one with insufficient faith. Even Kathryn Kuhlman, one of Christendom’s greatest healing evangelists, said she did not understand all there is to know about healing. She never tried to justify why healing didn’t happen. To her, healing was a wonderful mystery… We shouldn’t reach conclusions about things we don’t understand.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, 1994, pg 92.

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“Faith is not the only reason people receive healing. Sometimes people have no faith at all. Yet they are healed. Sometimes those praying for them have little faith anything will happen yet healing takes place… Kenneth Hagin recognized the need for deliverance or healing by a fire in his hands…”– Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, 1994, pg 93.

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“We look for what we want out of life. ‘What’s in it for me? My rights. My great goal is to… This is my ambition’.

All of this builds self-centred lifestyles pointing us to destruction.

Luke 17:3 (NKJV) ‘Whosoever seeks to save his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it.’

Here is one of those extraordinary Biblical paradoxes only grasped by a spiritual perception… We are no longer motivated by selfish pursuit but by the desires of Christ. – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, 1994, pg 98.

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“The anointing should not be traded for anything.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, 1994, pg 100.

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“If our conversation is sick, the Spirit will be quenched. We may think we can just as we want and the Spirit will remain with us. This is untrue. Our lives must be ordered to walk the ways of God. Our conduct must please Him. The Spirit rests on the man or woman who lives this way; those who seek to serve God and others, rather than self.

Our lives are to be clean and holy. We are on a quest for purity. We live calm, restful lives because our hearts are just that. The Spirit walks with us because we have separated ourselves from the world. We are not soiled with this world’s dirt.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, 1994, pg 100.

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“My good friend and great Christian statesman Lester Sumrall, preaches annually in our church.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, 1994, pg 105.

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CHAPTER 9

SLAIN IN THE SPIRIT

People falling over under the power of God has become common in Spirit-filled gatherings…

It is a phenomenon occurring throughout Scripture. In the garden of Eden God places Adam in a deep sleep as He forms Eve (Gen 2:21). Abraham, (Gen 17:17), Daniel (Dan 10:9), John (Rev 1:17) all fell before the Lord. We may imagine that this was an act of conscious worship. It may well have been, but both Daniel and John say that all their strength left them and they became like dead men. This indicates more than just falling down to worship. They collapsed before the Lord.

In 2 Chronicles 5:14, at the dedication of a new temple built by King Solomon, it is ‘filled with a cloud and the priests could not stand’ to carry out their ministry.

Saul, the persecutor of Christians, is knocked from his mount en route to Damascus…

… When soldiers approach Jesus to arrest Him for trial, they ask if He is the one they are looking for. He replies ‘I am’. All the soldiers ‘went backward and fell to the ground’ (John 18:6).” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, 1994, pg 107-8.

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“God wants us to enjoy supernatural happenings.” – Phil Pringle, Moving In The Spirit, 1994, pg 110.